Genealogy Chat

My g grandparents came to London in the 1890s from what is now Lithuania. In Family papers their surname is spelt either : Bedanis / Pedennis/ or anglicised to Badis. I cannot find them in the 1901 census,Or the birth of My grandmother Sarah around that time. Does anyone know if there are archives of Jewish immigrants, or shipping records that would be relevant?am feeling quite frustrated as the other side of the family is proving equally elusive despite being English. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Mandy

Did they take naturalisation .if so their records should be at The National Archives Kew

Not sure, but it seems likely. thanks for the tip, I will investigate

How do you know they came here in the 1890s? What are their names?

When was Sarah born and where?


Does this fit at all?

Name: Motel Bedanis
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 30 Dec 1908
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: New York
Ship Name: Oceanic

Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 110596

My mother's parents were both Lithuanian immigrants to Scotland in 1903 and 1912, so I'll give you a couple of websites to get you started, if you're interested in going back to your Lithuanian roots. I've found these very useful...otherwise just Google and you'll find plenty.

www.boards.rootsweb.com (go to Localities Categories, then to 'Scandinavia & Baltic States').
www.genealogylinks.net (in the Lithuania section you'll find plenty of links including those with Lithuanian Jewish connections).
www.rootschat.com (find the Immigrants to Britain section).

Their surname will probably have been changed one way or another, as you say may even have been Anglicised altogether which can often have no bearing on the original name, so you'll need to be fairly 'general' with your searching.
Remember female surnames have different endings to the males - an unmarried female sruname will end in aite or ute generally, whilst a married female will have the ending iene.


Good luck.
K

P.S.
Forgot to mention this one which is really good...
http://genforum.genealogy.com/lithuania

K

Thanks guys. I know from what my grandmother told me, and it may be wrong. Sarah, My grandmother was born in London 13.03 either 1900 or 1901, but her birth wasn't registered for some time apparently. To my knowledge they came directly from Russia to the UK, though they may have believed they were going to the USA. My ggrandfather was Abraham Bedanis or Pedennis. As far as I know my ggrandmother came over separately and they met here. She was called Hannah Muller, or Annie Miller. It all just seems so tricky with all the name variations. Thankyou for your pointers
Mandy

Do you have their death details because depending when they died it may show their dob. They could be found on Ancestry. Irene

What about this one
Sarah Bedinski registered at Mile End March 1902. Irene

Trouble is death cert details are only as good as the informants knowledge. They can be years out on birth dates. (No Bedinskis on the shipping lists :()

If they met and married here, have you found a marriage certificate? I cant see a marriage for those names.

There may be synagogue records but its still very strange nothing is coming up on registrations. Do you have any sort of paperwork which shows the names as family memories cant be trusted. Have you got your grandmothers marriage cert?

Try this site for help:

http://jgsgbeol.tripod.com/

http://www.genealogylinks.net/country/jewish-genealogy/index.html