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I have just discovered that my great-great grandfather was german however on the 1901 census he states that he is "naturalised british subject" his name was Jacob Hiller aged 55 and lived in Durham Co. Durham England how can I find out any more?

There's no Jacob Hiller on Ancestry but there is a Jacob Frederick Heller. Is this your GG grandfather?


1901 England Census
about Jacob Frederick Heller
Name: Jacob Frederick Heller
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Naturelzid British Subject, Germany
Civil Parish: Durham St Nicholas
Ecclesiastical parish: Durham St Nicholas
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Durham
Sub registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Gulley 14
Ada Charlotte Heller 22
Annie Elizabeth Heller 55
Annie Winnifred Heller 11
Barbara Heller 13
Barnard Gordon Heller 17
Dorothy Margaret Heller 8
Frederick Hugh Heller 21
Hubert George Heller 18
Jacob Frederick Heller 55

Rose

1881 narrows it down a bit:

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Jacob F. HILLER Head M Male 35 W.urtemburg, Germany Dealer In Mus Instrts
Annie E. HILLER Wife M Female 35 Bourne, Lincoln, England Wife Of Dealer In Mus Instrts
Ada C. HILLER Dau Female 2 Durham, England
Ellen BETTS Assist U Female 24 London, London, Middlesex, England Assist & Teacher Of Music
Catharine MAIN Serv U Female 21 Durham, England Dom Servt (Gen)

Source Information:
Dwelling No 71 Sadler Street
Census Place Durham St Nicholas, Durham, England

1871 England Census
Name: Jacob F Hiller
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany
Civil Parish: Chelsea St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Disability: View Image
Registration district: Chelsea
Sub registration district: Chelsea, South
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
George F Greiner 64
Josephine Greiner 59
Jacob F Hiller 25

Rose

This will give you his father:

Marriages Jun 1875
Hiller Jakob Friedrich Bourn 7a 603
HOBSON Annie Elizabeth Bourn 7a 603

Rose

There's a user submitted entry on IGI so treat with extreme caution.

Jakob Friedrich Hiller

Birth: 22 NOV 1845 Zell Unter Aichelberg, Donaukreis, Wuerttemberg


Parents:
Father: Johannes Hiller
Mother: Anna Greiner

Messages:
Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church.
Source Information:
Film Number: 458774

Rose

His naturalisation papers are held at the National Archives and will give you a lot of additional information. My German Great Great Grandfather had to supply a lot of information about his family which proved invaluable to me. :

Home Office: Registered Papers, Supplementary
HO144/304/B4928
Nationality and Naturalisation:
Hiller, Jacob Frederick, from Germany. Resident in Durham.
Certificate A5893 issued 14 September 1888.

You can purchase a copy online and view it within moments on:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/youroptions/your-options.asp?requestthis=HO+144%2F304%2FB4928&linkback=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Enationalarchives%2Egov%2Euk%2Fcatalogue%2FDisplayCatalogueDetails%2Easp%3FCATID%3D5069901%26CATLN%3D6%26FullDetails%3DFalse&CATID=5069901&CATLN=6&FullDetails=False&UserType=0

However, if you were able to visit the Archives in Kew, Surrey, you may find other supporting papers too.

Paul, I've tried looking for my grandfather's Naturalisation details and not had any luck with the Nat Archives site, I just don't find it easy to use. I'm probably doing something really stupid, but cannot fathom it - could you point me in the right direction please......ie, would you be kind enough to give me idiot's instructions!!
K
P.S. Would it be that there is a 'closure rule' on such docs, so I can't find reference? My grandad was Naturalised approx 1946/1948.

Thank you so much for all of your help. I have got butterflies in my stomach just reading the information that you have found. Thank you once again Corrina

David's right - My g-g-g-grandfather was on the census as a naturalised British subject 7 years before the event!

Thanks for your help Paul, have PM'd you back.
K