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How good are GR's Census records?

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Martin

Martin Report 10 Dec 2008 23:31

I'm intrigued. Maggie Campbell (b. Cowes JAS 1879) is noted as living in Pelham Cottage in 1891 Census (I was searching for her brother Martin) but she doesn't appear in GR's Search lists anywhere. How could I trace what happened to her? I've checked GR's Marriage and Death Record s1891 to 1901 (she doesn't show up here at all) Any ideas where I might start my search as GR record fail to show her anywhere ? Why?

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 10 Dec 2008 23:33

As I understand it, GR only point you to other sites - they don't hold the info themselves.

Try FreeBMD for all births marriages and deaths up to about 1920 - this is the URL - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Jill

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 10 Dec 2008 23:35

1881 census is free to search at Familysearch - this is the URL:

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp

Jill

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Dec 2008 00:10

Jill is correct, GR don't have their own records, & their credits are a very expensive way of doing it. They don't have 1881 as it's free on familysearch. Try a free trial at Ancestry.co.uk for other censuses.

Martin & Maggie are with their mother, Mary, wife of a mariner in 1881.

Check familysearch for more info.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 11 Dec 2008 04:43

from www.ancestry.co.uk


1881 Census

Name: Maggie Campbell
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Female
Where born: West Cowes, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Northwood
County/Island: Hampshire

Street address: Birmingham Road Medina House

Registration district: Isle Of Wight
Sub registration district: Cowes

Mary A. Campbell 35 Wife of Master Mariner
Helen Campbell 8
Martin Campbell 6
Maggie Campbell 1
Sarah J. Baker 13 Domestic Servant



1891 Census

Name: Maggie Campbell
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Isle of Wight, Cowes

Civil Parish: Northwood
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: West Cowes
County/Island: Hampshire

Registration district: Isle Of Wight
Sub registration district: Cowes

Mary A Campbell 45 Widow, Milliner
Helen Campbell 18
Martin Campbell 16
Maggie Campbell 11
Florence Campbell 7
Janet Campbell 5
Mary A Campbell 48 <<<<< surname PERRY, living next door
Mary A Campbell 24 <<<<Perry
John W C Campbell 13 <<< perry
Ernest D Campbell 11 <<<<< Perry




Mistranscribing on ancestry!!!


As Jill said, GR direct you to other sites, they don't carry the official records themselves .... and it is the most expensive way to do your research.


Apart from the official records, the only way you will find someone's name on GR is if another member has entered that name in their tree.

GR is really just a carrier of information entered by members or taken from other sites.




I couldn't find Maggie on the 1901 Census ......... she could have married or died.

To see if you can find out more:-


Go to www.freebmd.org.uk, it is a free site that carries the bmds for England and Wales from July 1 1837 (when registration began). Volunteers are entering the information, and are currently up to about 1925/1930. Hopefully, they will soon complete the task up until 1983.


www.ancestry.org.uk carries the Complete Index to bmds for England and Wales from 1837 to ca 2006 ................... but it is an index which has to be searched quarter by quarter, year by year.




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Dec 2008 01:07

Island

Other sites offer far more than GR


........ and it is also more expensive on GR, especially if you are paying per view.


Most of us have found that we depend on ancestry, usually ancestry.co.uk .......... they carry not only censuses, but the Complete Index to bmds, records from WW1 and WW2, phone books, baptism and marriage records from ca 1550 to the 1900s, etc etc.


The initial susbcription may seem steep ...... but it's invaluable!


Another site is findmypast.com .... some people prefer this to ancestry.

Interestingly, the census transcriptions are different on ancestry and on findmypast.

Then you have the free sites ......... www.familysearch.org, with all its possible problems, is a free site, and it carries the 1881 UK census, the 1880 US census, and baptism records .... just ake sure that you are very wary of Submitted records which can be inaccurate.


sylvia

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 12 Dec 2008 06:31

Maggie's birth

IOW FHS Searchable Registered Births
Results of database search

Name = CAMPBELL Year = 1879
Name Approximate
Date of birth Other Surname(s) District Reference
1 CAMPBELL, William, Henry, Daniel 1879 ROWE Godshill G21/E490
2 CAMPBELL, Maggie 1879 SAXBY Cowes C26/E379

Martin's birth
8 CAMPBELL, Martin 1874 SAXBY Cowes C22/E472

Wendy

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 12 Dec 2008 09:45

Each of the main sites has their own index transcription and some will have more errors than others. For example, Ancestry's 1901 census seems to have many more omissions and errors than the 1901 on-line site, the original government sponsored one. Perhaps they did a rush job to get it on line quickly, and it shows.

Ancestry's 1851 census was also problematical, but It has improved, so perhaps they have been correcting errors over a period of time.

For census record, GR, Gold subscription is by far the cheapest.. As mentioned, GR don't hold any records but offer access to other sites.

Pay per view is not a rip off as some keep suggesting and for many it may be the best they can afford. The problem is that you don't know whether the record you have found is of any use until you pay top see it, and are then annoyed if it not the one you want. You just need to be aware of this.

Horses for Courses as the saying goes, it all depends on your budget and what exactly it is you are looking for. There is no such thing as "The Best" site - they are all a bit different.