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Would Irish people fleeing the famine and coming to England be on ships passenger lists? I know my Hennessey family came over from Skibereen in Cork, which at a guess they probably sailed from Queenstown.
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have you tried googling for information?
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The History Place - Irish Potato Famine
Six chapters covering all aspects of the 1845 potato crop failure. Includes an overview, a look at the effects, so called 'coffin ships' and subsequent ...
www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/famine/index.h... - 6k - Similar pages
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many Irishmen, crossing the sea to England was a familiar journey since they regularly worked in the harvest fields of England as seasonal laborers. But for their wives and children, it was a jarring experience. Crewmen scorned and herded them like animals onto crammed decks until the boat was dangerously overloaded. In one case, a crowded steamer heading for Liverpool arrived with 72 dead aboard. The captain had ordered the hatches battened down during a storm at sea and they had all suffocated.
Despite the dangers, the Irish knew that once they landed on Britain's shores they would not starve to death. Unlike Ireland, food handouts were freely available throughout the country. The quality of the food was also superior to the meager rations handed out in Ireland's soup kitchens and workhouses.
The Irish first headed for Liverpool, a city with a pre-famine population of about 250,000, many of whom were unskilled laborers. During the first wave of famine emigration, from January to June of 1847, an estimated 300,000 destitute Irish arrived in Liverpool, overwhelming the city. The financial burden of feeding the Irish every day soon brought the city to the brink of ruin. Sections of the city featuring cheap lodging houses became jammed. Overflow crowds moved into musty cellars, condemned and abandoned buildings, or anywhere they could just lie down. Amid these densely packed, unsanitary conditions, typhus once again reared its ugly head and an epidemic followed, accompanied by an outbreak of dysentery.
The cheap lodging houses were also used by scores of Irish waiting to embark on ships heading for North America. Three out of four Irish sailing for North America departed from the seaport at Liverpool. Normally they had to sleep over for a night or two until their ship was ready to sail. Many of these emigrants contracted typhus in the rundown, lice-infested lodging houses, then boarded ships, only to spend weeks suffering from burning fever out at sea.
On June 21, 1847, the British government, intending to aid besieged Liverpool, passed a tough new law allowing local authorities to deport homeless Irish back to Ireland. Within days, the first boatloads of paupers were being returned to Dublin and Cork, then abandoned on the docks. Orders for removal were issued by the hundreds. About 15,000 Irish were dragged out of filthy cellars and lodging houses and sent home even if they were ill with fever.
By the fall of 1847, the numbers of Irish entering Liverpool had slowed considerably and the housing crisis abated. Glasgow, the second major port of entry, also resorted to deporting the Irish due to similar overcrowding and fever outbreaks. The Irish then headed into the Lowlands and Edinburgh where yet another fever outbreak occurred. Everyone feared fever and thus shunned the Irish no matter how much they pleaded for help. Working men also viewed them as rivals for unskilled jobs.
To avoid deportation, the Irish moved further into the interior of England, Scotland and Wales. But wherever they went they were unwelcome. For the unfortunate Irish deported back home, the worst was yet to come.
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To answer your question, no there would be no shipping lists. Do you know if they were catholic or protestant?
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No because at that time all of Ireland was part of the Uk
I am surprised at how often this question comes up on the threads presumably this bit of our history does not get an airing in schools these days despite all the problems of recent times !
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Thanks for your reply folks. I have bookmarket the Irish famine article to read latter (had a very quick look through).
I thought it probably was a longshot to think they could be on a passenger list, as I know Ireland was part of the UK.
I don't really know when they came over, althought the family story was that they did come over at the time of the famine.. The family were catholic. My G. grandmother Julia Hennessey was born in Skibereen in 1843. Her mother was Catherine b.1811 and her father was Jeremiah (on Julia's marriage cert. occupation farmer) & a brother Patrick b.1840. Catherine (by then widowed), Julia & Patrick don't appear till 1861 census (at least I can't find them) when they live in London. Skibereen heritage have offered to do a parish records BMD lookup for me for 50 euro which I will take up when I get the money together.
Thanks for your help.
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1881
James HENNESEY Head M Male 43 Ireland Fish Hawker
Julia HENNESEY Wife M Female 39 Ireland
Marian HENNESEY Dau U Female 17 Brighton, Sussex, England Dressmaker
Margaret HENNESEY Dau Female 16 Brighton, Sussex, England Dressmaker
Julia HENNESEY Dau Female 13 Brighton, Sussex, England Scholar
Catherine HENNESEY Dau Female 11 Brighton, Sussex, England Scholar
Helen HENNESEY Dau Female 8 Brighton, Sussex, England Scholar
Nora HENNESEY Dau Female 6 Brighton, Sussex, England Scholar
Patrick HENNESEY Son Male 3 Brighton, Sussex, England Scholar
John HENNESEY Son Male 1 Brighton, Sussex, England
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Source Information:
Dwelling 83 Spa Street
Census Place Brighton, Sussex, England
Family History Library Film 1341254
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1079 / 117
Page Number 28
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International Genealogical Index - British Isles
41. Jeremiah Hennessy - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1790 Of Bennetsbridge, Athy, Kildare, Ireland
42. Jeremiah Hennessey - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 1790 , , Ireland
43. JEREMIAH HENESY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 27 JUL 1802 Roman Catholic, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland
44. JEREMIAH HENNESSY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 25 MAR 1816 Roman Catholic, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland
45. JEREMIAH HENNESSY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 27 NOV 1818 Roman Catholic, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland
46. Jeremiah Hennessy - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 20 AUG 1825 St Michaels, Athy, Kildare, Ireland
47. Jeremiah Hennessy - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1825 Of, , Cork, Ireland
48. JERH. HENNESY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 03 MAR 1835 Roman Catholic, Inchigeelagh Parish, Cork, Ireland
49. JEREMIAH HENNESSEY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 02 FEB 1837 Of Kennoigh, , Cork, Ireland
50. Jeremiah Hennessey - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: FEB 1838 , , Ireland
51. JEREMIAH HENNESSY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 20 MAY 1838 Roman Catholic, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland
52. JERH. HENNESSY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 03 MAY 1840 Roman Catholic, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland
53. JERH. HENNESSY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 25 MAR 1844 Roman Catholic, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland
54. Jeremiah Hennessy - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: About 1850 Of, , Cork, Ireland
55. JEREMIAH HENNESEY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 09 OCT 1853 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London, England
56. JER HENNESSY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 02 AUG 1858 Roman Catholic, Dromtarriff, Cork, Ireland
57. Jeremiah Hennessey - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 25 FEB 1861 , , Ireland
58. Jeremiah Hennessey - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: About 1863 , , Ireland
59. JEREMIAH HENNESSY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 31 JAN 1864 Haddington Road-795, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
60. JEREMIAH HENNESSY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 13 NOV 1865 0455, Fenagh And Myshall, Carlow, Ireland
61. JEREMIAH HENESY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 27 MAR 1866 0657, Unionhall, Cork, Ireland
62. JEREMIAH HENNESSY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 10 MAR 1867 , Cork, Ireland
63. JEREMIAH HENNESSY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 01 JUL 1867 , Cork, Ireland
64. JEREMIAH HENNESSY - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 13 APR 1868 , Cork, Ireland
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Thanks again guys, have to check out the the Jeremiahs.
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