Genealogy Chat

If you sent a message by clicking on his name that would go to his 'real' email address at the time of posting this thread

jax

I did contact him by means of the link on his name (and copied the 'post' to him but, of course, he may have given up on Genes...

If anybody has a 'real' email address for him I'd be grateful.

I posted the reply here as much for information to others as anything.

Thanks for the help and advice - I use Genes once in a blue moon nowadays as I was getting rather fed up with contacts who had composed completely ficticious trees by means of the IGI - the "I've got 15,000 people in my tree" types and one lady who insisted that my Grandfather had been married twice because, I worked out, she'd gone to the first name that 'sort of fitted' and continued (in a similarly erroneous manner) backwards without realising that a three year-old doesn't often father children (that was a classic).

I was all for trying to help but some people simply will not be helped it seems...

Having got firmly bogged down in Dover in 1791 and needing to visit the Dover archives (not easy from Spain) I've sort of taken a break from the family to concentrate my efforts on the local history of where I was born and bred - at least I'll be leaving some sort of legacy for future generations in a wider context...

Thanks again

Duncan Amos

Hello Duncan, that sounds really interesting and it would be good if you can contact Warwick as suggested by jax and GB.

If he doesn't reply, then 3 other people on this site have him in their tree and may be able to contact him for you. Just put his name into the Search Trees box above and follow the directions.

The reason about the removal of your email address is because this site is not particularly secure and GR prefer that we do not use personal addresses on the boards.

Good luck. Cx

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If you want to contact a member then do so by a private message - click on their board name

Duncan

Warwick posted this almost two years ago, he may not be looking at the boards now
click on his name and send a message he may still have the same email address

jax

Warwick...

Balls Road was named after Joseph Ball (it was named, literally "Ball's Road) who purchased the land at the auction of the Oatlands Estate on 4th August 1846. This is a popular error because, as you rightly say, the Estate was formerly the property of Edward Hughes Ball Hughes.

The first houses were built in Ball's Road around 1850. It became St.Mary's Road around 1882, from the parish records - the church having been built in 1862 and the Parish created in 1869, There was no RE-building in the Victorian era. The road had been a track passing through the Estate and remained as a dirt base until into the 20th century, having been gravelled in the late 1880s.

Swiss Cottage was a large house in "America", later Oatlands Avenue, not in Ball's Road.

I'm a bit confused as to who your ancestor was - James Jackson Wilks or James Watts Peppercorne as you seem to be 'claiming' both...

As you are aware, James Watts Peppercorne's daughter Louisa Harriet married James Jackson Wilks in the June Quarter of 1854.

Could you please contact me at [email protected] and I can provide you with quite a lot of information on the village and the people and show you where Swiss Cottage was located..

Duncan Amos
Oatlands Heritage Group

UPDATE: I found reference to the name change on the internet the road was called Ball's Road after a famous Georgian gentleman called Edward Hughes Ball Hughes (AKA The Golden Ball) who owned Oatlands Estate at that time. The road changed it's name to St Mary's Road sometime later afterl all the houses were rebuilt in the Victorian era. As a weird coincidence J J Wilks's father-in-law my 4 x Great Grandfather James Watts Peppercorne bought the Oatland's estate off Ball Hughes after he went bankrupt and escaped his creditors in France. thanks again for everyone's help in finding out a fascinating story.

Hi Kath thank you I think this may be my only option.

And thank you Irene a really good tip, such a shame he hasn't got a Walton map because he has about everywhere else.

Warwick

Another option is to purchase a copy of a map of that area for the time in question from Alan Godfrey Maps
check www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk
I find their maps great. Irene

I think you'd be better going to the library or county record office and asking if they had old street maps of the area.

Kath. x

I have found my 3x GGrandfather James Jackson Wilks a linen merchant in Walton-on-Thames, Surrey on the 1871 census. He appears under St Mary's district in Walton-on-Thames. The address reads The Swiss Cottage, Balls Road, there doesn't appear to be a Balls Road in the area any more (just looked on google maps). Walton town center was rebuilt in the 1960s and I sure road names have changed over time, what I need to find is a map from the late 1800s that would have street names so I can try and pin point the site. I live locally so when I know where it is I can go and see it. Do you think I can find this information out on line? any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks