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Can't find Family before 1901

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Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 5 Feb 2009 14:35

2 suggestions as to why you can't find his birth registration and possible ways round it.

1. He wasn't registered although he should have been......You could look for a baptism in the parish registers.

2. He was registered but for some reason the registration details never made it to the GRO......You could apply to the relevant Register Office for a search to see if they have the record.

Good luck
Chris




Rebecca

Rebecca Report 5 Feb 2009 13:48

Yes thats the right family

I Have a copy of that particular birth certificate and It has the father as George Carter so that must be the wrong one

The father on the mariage Certificate (John) is a farm bailif it doesn't day he is deceased so I am assuming he is still alive in 1899

I have also been through all the registered births for that year and the years before and after and nothing seems to match

Have just checked on the John at Rowhedge and he is on the 1901 census so not him either

+*+blossom In Essex+*+

+*+blossom In Essex+*+ Report 5 Feb 2009 09:59

What is father John's occupation on the M/C?

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 5 Feb 2009 09:58

This could be his birth reg as Maldon covers the area of Tollesbury.

Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
CARTER John William Maldon 4a 276

Christine

+*+blossom In Essex+*+

+*+blossom In Essex+*+ Report 5 Feb 2009 09:58

This is the same John in 1881 but no father:


1881 England Census
about John Carter
Name: John Carter
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowhedge East Donyland, Essex, England

Civil Parish: East Donyland
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address: Chapel Street
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Nothing

Registration district: Lexden
Sub registration district: Peldon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Carter 28
Elizabeth Carter 6
John Carter 3
Laura Carter

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+*+blossom In Essex+*+

+*+blossom In Essex+*+ Report 5 Feb 2009 09:56

Possible, but not certain. Rowhedge is not that far from Tolleshunt D'Arcy:


1891 England Census
about John Carter
Name: John Carter
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowhedge, Essex, England

Civil Parish: East Donyland
Ecclesiastical parish: East Donyland
Town: Rowhedge
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Lexden
Sub registration district: Peldon
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Carter 41
Elizabeth Carter 40
Elisabeth Carter 16
John Carter 13
Laura Carter 8
Sydney Carter 6
Elisa Mandelin 71

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+*+blossom In Essex+*+

+*+blossom In Essex+*+ Report 5 Feb 2009 09:50

is this the one we're talking about?


1901 England Census
about John Carter
Name: John Carter
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Tolleshunt Ditrey, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Leicester Formerly Newfound Pool
Ecclesiastical parish: Extra Parochial
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Leicester
Sub registration district: South Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 71
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members:
Name Age
John Carter 27
Annie Carter 23
Cecil W Carter 1
Lilian J Carter 6 months

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Rebecca

Rebecca Report 5 Feb 2009 09:43

My Husbands Gt grandfather John William Carter
is on the 1901 census with wife and two children it says he was born in Tolleshunt d'Arcey, Essex, I cannot find any record of him before this on any census or any birth record

they married in 1899 and I have the certificate which gives his father as John but this doesn't seem to help either

I have since looked at the 1911 Census on which he is known as Jack and is born in Tollesbury but I am still struggling

Any Ideas what I can do next