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Hi all

I reckon I am pretty experienced (big head??) at this family tree stuff, but have come up against a problem. My GGG grandmother Ann Crowther was supposedly born Lockwood, Yorkshire (near Huddersfield), c 1820. Married in Glossop, Derbyshire in 1838, her father is simply noted as "Dead".

In 1841 there are a number of Crowthers living in the Glossop area, not "born in county" and in 1851 I find several of them listed as born Lockwood. Obviously I am trying to find Ann's parents.

IGI has no suitable Ann, a nice lady from Huddersfield Library attempted to find her with only one possible entry, and I have just spent £17 on parish register transcripts from the local FHS. There is only one likely Ann, daughter of Joshua and Mary, though IGI has this Ann as daughter of Joh. which could be Joseph. That does nothing for me, other than if he is Joseph, I can see that Joseph and Mary have lots of children, none of whom seem to move to Glossop.

I have transcribed all the Crowther baptisms (about 30 for the period I am looking at) of the local church into a spreadsheet, and attempted to tie up families, and then find out where they were in 1841. I have only found about 10 of them, still in Huddersfield. Where did they all go to? Conversely, I have found lots of other Crowthers in Huddersfield in 1841 who are not on the parish registers. Why not? And I mean lots.

Back to Glossop, I am trying to tie up the Lockwood-born Crowthers with parish registers. Again, not a chance. Savil or Saville seems to be a popular name, my GGG grandma had a son Saville, there is another Saville living in Glossop with a son Saville, but there is only one Saville baptised in Huddersfield and he still there in 1841 and 1851. It is tempting to assume that her parents were Savil Crowther and Ann Thornton, but they have 4 sons baptised in Huddersfield and no daughter.

Basically, I have run out of ideas as to how to find Ann Crowther's parents. I don't mind paying for the odd sensible certificate, if anyone can suggest one to order.

This is the first time I have been totally stuck on someone married after 1837, unless illegitimate (which she might have been).

Ideas gratefully received.

Margaret

1881 - mistranscription?
George CROWDER Head M Male 57 Mansfield, Nottingham, England Ag Lab
Ann CROWDER Wife M Female 57 Derby, England
Francis CROWDER Son M Male 25 Bolsover Ag Lab
Eliza CROWDER Daur U Female 22 Bolsover School Mistress
Elizabeth CROWDER Daur Female 20 Bolsover


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Source Information:
Dwelling High St
Census Place Bolsover, Derby, England
Family History Library Film 1341822
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3439 / 8
Page Number 10

1881
Saville CROWTHER Head M Male 32 Glossop, Derby, England Labourer
Harriet CROWTHER Wife M Female 31 Hollingworth, Cheshire, England Housekeeper
James CROWTHER Son U Male 8 Hollingworth, Cheshire, England Scholar
Sarah CROWTHER Dau U Female 7 Adderley Place Glossop Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 5 Adderley Place
Census Place Glossop Dale, Derby, England
Family History Library Film 1341828
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3461 / 11
Page Number 15

1881

Saville CROWTHER Head M Male 42 Golcar, York, England Waste Dealer (Woollen Cloth)
Eliza A. CROWTHER Wife M Female 40 Golcar, York, England Waste Dealers Wife
Charles E. FIELDING Step Son U Male 16 Golcar, York, England Waste Dealers Son
Mary A. CROWTHER Daur Female 4 Golcar, York, England
Annie CROWTHER Daur Female 4 Golcar, York, England
Annie LEES Serv Female 13 Golcar, York, England Domestic Servant


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Source Information:
Dwelling Small Lane
Census Place Golcar, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342048
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4390 / 109
Page Number 5

1881

George CROWTHER Head M Male 35 Woolley Bridge, Derby, England Green Grocer
Elizabeth CROWTHER Wife M Female 33 Denby, York, England
John J. CROWTHER Son U Male 14 Woolley Bridge, Derby, England Cotton Piecer
Saville CROWTHER Son U Male 13 Hollingworth, Cheshire, England Scholar
Fanny CROWTHER Daur U Female 11 Hollingworth, Cheshire, England Scholar
Ann CROWTHER Daur Female 9 Brookfield, Derby, England Scholar
Elizabeth CROWTHER Daur Female 1 Hollingworth, Cheshire, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Market Street
Census Place Hollingworth, Cheshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341971
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4061 / 83
Page Number 22

1881

Mason CROWTHER Head M Male 47 Sowram, York, England Mason
Grace CROWTHER Wife M Female 41 Halifax, York, England
Henry CROWTHER Son U Male 20 Sowram, York, England Stone Delver
Eliza CROWTHER Dau U Female 16 Sowram, York, England Worsted Spinner
Saville CROWTHER Son U Male 13 Sowram, York, England Worsted Doffer
Mary CROWTHER Dau Female 11 Sowram, York, England Worsted Spinner
Caroline Mary CROWTHER Dau Female 8 Sowram, York, England Scholar
Harriet CROWTHER Dau Female 6 Sowram, York, England Scholar
Ann CROWTHER Dau Female 3 Sowram, York, England
Will CROWTHER Son Male 11 Sowram, York, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling St Peters Square
Census Place Southowram, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342050
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4397 / 16
Page Number 24

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Husband
Saville Crowther Pedigree


Birth: 1798 Fixby, Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Marriage: 1827 Fixby, Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Death: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Burial:





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Wife
Harriet Pedigree


Birth: 1801 Fixby, Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Marriage: 1827 Fixby, Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Death: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Burial:





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Children

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1. Hannah Crowther Pedigree
Female

Birth: 1833 Fixby, Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Death: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Burial:



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2. Mary Crowther Pedigree
Female

Birth: 1839 Fixby, Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Christening:
Death: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Burial:

1881

Joshua CROWTHER Head M Male 36 Lockwood, York, England Shoe Maker
Ann CROWTHER Wife M Female 30 Huddersfield, York, England
F.T. CROWTHER Son Male 9 Lockwood, York, England Scholar
Gibson CROWTHER Son Male 5 Lockwood, York, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Meltham Road
Census Place Lockwood, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342048
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4387 / 62
Page Number 27

1881

Joshua CROWTHER Head M Male 27 Dewsbury, York, England Inn Keepers Assistant
Anny CROWTHER Wife M Female 22 Dewsbury, York, England Inn Keepers Assistants Wife
Annie CROWTHER Daughter U Female 3 Dewsbury, York, England Scholar
Lilly CROWTHER Daughter U Female 1 Dewsbury, York, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Wheelwright St
Census Place Dewsbury, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342099
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4560 / 8
Page Number 9

You've all done Sterling stuff, but I am looking for people born Lockwood or thereabouts, living in Glossop area.

Ann of Green Gables, the Saville and George you have found I agree with. What I am really asking is why are all the Lockwood births c 1825 missing in Huddersfield, and where have all the Derbyshire residents born Lockwood come from - they are not baptised in Lockwood (parish church Almondbury).

Margaret

hi there - I use the Mormon LDS site - it's free - only found one from Lockwood though

Hi Ann,

Yes I use IGI and everything else. It is a logistics problem I am dealing with - where have all the people baptised Lockwood gone to, and where have all the people living in Glossop, supposedly from Lockwood, been baptised?

I am not asking for look-ups, I have them all, which is why I didn't post of the Trying to Find board. I am looking for Tips as to what on earth to do next. Or do I just give up?

Margaret