Genealogy Chat

Hi,
Can anyone advise me on how to check info. before ordering birth certs? I have 2 Charles Smiths both born in Worcs. in 1853. I would like to know their father but am not sure which is the one. Do I need to order both or is there a way of checking before paying out?
Many thanks
Pam

Do you know the names of the parents of the one you want?

If you do you can use the reference checking page on the online order form and if the parents are not the ones you give then they will not supply the certificate and refund £4 of your money (which means you pay £3 for them to check).

If you do not know the parent's names then have you looked for both of these people in the 1861 census to see who they are with?

Kath. x

Do you know the fathers name? If so then you can ask for a name check. It costs a bit more but the GRO will only issue the cert if it matches, otherwise you get a partial refund.

Otherwise the is no way of seeing the details without ordering the cert.

Can you find said Charles marriage? Take it you are working backwards? The marriage cert will give the fathers name and occupation and also that of his bride. The residence, his age, his occupation and the names of the witnesses.

Buy the marriage cert first.

Could these be the two births you found in the 1861 census:-

Name: Charles Smith
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Gender: Male
Where born: Lower Mitton, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Stourport
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Kidderminster
Sub registration district: Lower Mitton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 199
Household Members:
Name Age
John Smith 49
Sarah Smith 16
George Smith 14
Eliza Smith 11
William Smith 9
Charles Smith 7
Edmund Smith 4
Richard Griffin 50

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2081; Folio: 59; Page: 35; GSU roll: 542914.

AND:-

Name: Chas Smith
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: White Lady Aston, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Holy Cross
Town: Pershore
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Pershore
Sub registration district: Pershore
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members:
Name Age
John Smith 57
Hannah Smith 48
Ann Smith 18
William Smith 17
Edwin Smith 12
Jno Smith 9
Chas Smith 7
Matilda Smith 5

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2105; Folio: 38; Page: 23; GSU roll: 542918.

Kath. x

Thank you all for the advice, everyone. I will look into it further.

Hi have found father's name - William but don't know mother. Can't find marriage that matches up. Too common a name I suspect. Thank you all any way
Pam

Could this be your Charles Smith in the 1861 census:-
Name: Charles Smith
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Littleton, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Marston Sicca
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Stratford On Avon
Sub registration district: Old Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
William Smith 44
Mary Smith 36
Charles Smith 8
Ellen Smith 6
Samuel Smith 9 Mo
Anne Mullett 17
Sarah Bowles 30
Jane Cooper 22

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2231; Folio: 58; Page: 13; GSU roll: 542940.

Kath. x

Hi Kathleen,
It is possible, I think the family came from Worcester ,mostly around Claines/Northwick area. William was a widower when he married and I think Charles was from his first marriage.
I will check your findings out though. Thanks.