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help with marriage please

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Carter

Carter Report 14 Feb 2009 14:46

hi
i have found this family on the 1861 census and i have been trying to find their marriage but not had any success
david hitchen and rhoda ?
if anyone could find them i would be most grateful.

many thanks linda


1861 England Census
about Rhoda Hitchen
Name: Rhoda Hitchen
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: David
Gender: Female
Where born: Sowerby, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sowerby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Halifax
Sub registration district: Sowerby
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
David Hitchen 33
Rhoda Hitchen 31
Allen Hitchen 9
Joel Hitchen 1


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Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3293; Folio: 18; Page: 1; GSU roll: 543109.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Feb 2009 15:09

I can't find a marriage either. Perhaps they never actually married.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Feb 2009 15:15

This looks as if it could be Rhoda's death:-

Name: Rhoda Hitchen
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 47
District: Halifax
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9a

Kath. x
Page: 363

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Feb 2009 15:17

If the above death is the correct one, then David didn't hang around before marrying again. This could be a second marriage to Ann (his wife's name on the 1881 and 1891 census):-

Name: David Hitchen
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Halifax
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9a
Page: 689

Also on the page is an Ann Sutcliffe.

Kath. x

Potty

Potty Report 14 Feb 2009 15:42

Joel's birth cert would give you her maiden name.

Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
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HITCHEN Joel Halifax 9a 451

Carter

Carter Report 14 Feb 2009 17:55

thanks everyone for looking i wonder why there is no record of their marriage like you say perhaps they didnt marry but lived in sin tut tut !!

thanks linda

GeordieLad

GeordieLad Report 14 Feb 2009 20:00

My money would go on:

Sep qtr 1850, Otley 23 541
David Hudson + Rhoda Long

With the assumption of 'Hitchen' being misread as 'Hudson' when the index was written, everything else fits the other facts.

HTH,
GeordieLad

Carter

Carter Report 14 Feb 2009 21:12

hi geordie lad
i had seen that and the same thought crossed my mind if i sent for the marriage cert that would clear the matter up wouldnt it ?
thanks linda

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 15 Feb 2009 00:53

Linda, sending for the marriage cert might indeed give you some information, but be prepared for it to be wrong. That doesn't mean it is money wasted, but rather money spent in proving that you need to search further.

Margaret

Potty

Potty Report 15 Feb 2009 12:15

Before you send for that marriage cert, it looks as if Rhoda Long married William Penny (from Yorkshire bmd) - there is a William Penny on the same page on freebmd:

LONG Rhoda PENNY William St John, Yeadon Leeds

As I said before, the birth cert for Joel will give you her maiden name.

Carter

Carter Report 15 Feb 2009 12:26

thanks so much once again for your help so it is the birth cert of joel that i am going to send off for
thanks linda

Ricochet

Ricochet Report 15 Feb 2009 12:29

If this is the same David, he was unmarried in 1851

Name: David Hitchen
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Sowerby, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sowerby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Halifax
Sub registration district: Sowerby
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
David Hitchen 23
Betty Hitchen 28
John Hitchen 30


The elder boy's birth was registered as Hitchen..............

Births Sep 1851 (>99%)
HITCHEN Allen Halifax 22 310

Carter

Carter Report 16 Feb 2009 09:59

thanks for that ricochet just when i thought i had it sorted so the plot thickens
thanks linda