Genealogy Chat

If an English family went to India for a few years and then had more children, would the children born there
have their own Indian passports or would they be added to their mothers.

Hope this makes sence.

Lou

Thats if the parents had passports, forces families often travelled with their menfolk, not needing passports.

Hi Ricochet & Keith.

Thanks for your thoughts. All I know is that the father applied for his passport in the June 1853 and wife in Aug 1853.

I don't think I've made it very clear.

The family had 2 children all born in England, and who were obviously on one parent's passport. The whole family went to India where they had a further 2 children. It is these 2 additional children born in India that I am concerened with.

So either the whole family came back before 1861 and the father went back to India or they came back with the mother only.
As they were children born in India I didn't think they would be classed as British Subjects on parents passport. I would have thought they were Indian subjects of British parents???!!!!

What I don't know is if she definately travelled to India, or that the father came back with the 2 additional Indian children and 'adopted them' because of the difficulties there at that time.

What I do know though is that she was in England in 1861 with the 2 additional children, and on the census it states she is the wife of 'Royal Navy'. But he wasn't in the Royal Navy, but must have been working for the Indian Navy.

Lou

Lou, if both parents were British, the children would have been British Subjects.

If you would like to PM me the children's details or post them on here, I can take a look at the overseas birth indexes for you.

This site has information on India at that time.

http://www.aigs.org.au/britind.htm

As India was under British control then, I would think that any children of British subjects born there would be classed as British Subjects.

I have seen several census entries where people give their place of birth as one of Britain's colonies (eg Canada), followd by British Subject.

From what I read on the above site, I wonder if it was a passport as we understand it that they applied for or permission from the East India Company, as apparently no British subject was allowed to go to India without that Company's permission.

Hi Keith, Thanks, much appreciate it.

William Henry Baker b 1857 christened 1859
Joseph Samuel Baker b 1860.

Lou

Hi Potty,

That's interesting. I got the passport info from another very kind member of this site, she gave me the details and dates. I shall take a look at the site you mention. It sound's interesting.

thanks, Lou

Cannot find them in the GRO Consular birth indices 1857-1861, GRO Regimental Birth Indices 1761-1924 (10 images), GRO Marine birth Indices 1837-1862, GRO Army Chaplains Birth Indices 1796-1880

Sorry, cannot think where they could be.

History of Passports

http://www.ips.gov.uk/passport/about-history.asp

There was a site that had historical Passport details for individuals...Find My Past or British Origins?? Sorry I can't remember which and having a quick look at both i can't see it on the search facility.

Chris

Chris, Passport Applications 1851-1903 are on FMP under Migration

Hi Keith, Thank you so much for trying anyway. It was very kind of you.

It is a bit of a problem I know. And I'm not sure I'm going to get to the bottom of it either.

Chris, Thanks very much for the tip, will give it a go.

Thanks again, Lou

Hi Keith, thanks again for the latest info.

Much appreciate everones input
Lou