Genealogy Chat

Hi Kath,

OMG, I had a feeling there could have been a couple more children I was not aware of but now the family has doubled in size!

I am absolutely over the moon, seems like the 1891 census was a good idea. Funny though, as I had been looking on Find my Past at the 1881 census and saw George and Maria, thought it was weird seeing another Maria Elmore also born in Dagenham but didn't think it was the same family so I discarded it.

I am so so grateful, I am lost for words and that is not like me at all as my friends can vouch.

Thank you so much for your time and efforts
Rose

If it's the right family, I think this is them in 1881. The children match but for some reason John has become "George". (Job description looks right, though.)

1881 - Florence Road, East Ham, Essex
George Elmore Head Mar 27 Gas Works Stoker b. Essex Barking
Maria Elmore Wife 26 b. Essex Dagenham
Elizabeth Elmore Daur 4 Scholar b. Essex Plaistow
John Elmore Son 3 b. Essex Plaistow
Harriet Elmore Daur 2 b. Essex Plaistow

Is this the 1891 you're meaning?

1891 - 67 Prince Wales Road, West Ham (4 rooms inhabited)
John Elmore Head Mar 37 Gas Stoker b. Essex West Ham
Maria Elmore Wife Mar 36 b. Essex West Ham
Eliza E Elmore Daur Unm 14 b. Essex West Ham
John H Elmore Son Unm 13 b. Essex West Ham
Amy M Elmore Daur Unm 11 b. Essex West Ham
William Elmore Son Unm 8 b. Essex West Ham
Jane Elmore Daur Unm 6 b. Essex West Ham
George Elmore Son Unm 2 b. Essex West Ham
Florence R Elmore Daur Unm 3m b. Essex West Ham

Hi Kath,
Crikey a lot of typing in such a short time! In 1901 the family lived in Prince of Wales Road, Plaistow West Ham.

After all your hard work I do not think any of those details fit. John Ennor came from Islington and my John was born in Barking. John Elamer
did not have a sister Susie. Johns mother had 10 children as far as I know and Susie is not on my records.

I didnt think about the 1891 census, maybe that would be helpful if you would not mind getting the details for me. I had a quick look on Ancestry,
entered Maria Elmore, born 1855, Dagenham in the new style Ancestry
and the details came up (3rd one down the page)
Maria Elmore
spouse John
abt 1855 Essex

This should be the family I am looking for. I hope you dont mind looking for me. I have no idea what Johns occupation would be but he was a gas stoker in 1901.

Thank you Rose

The family I found in 1881, in 1891 - their surname is written down as "Jrit". John is down as John Ennor Jnr and the transcriber has taken Jnr as "Jrit" and thought it was their surname.

1891 - St. Columb Minor, Cornwall
John Ennor Jnr Head M 37 House builder and surveyor b. London Islington
Maria Ennor Wife M 36 b. Cornwall Newquay
Edward J Ennor Son 12 Scholar b. Cornwall Newquay
Amelia Ennor Daur 10 Scholar b. Cornwall Newquay
William H Ennor Son 9 Scholar b. Cornwall Newquay
George H Ennor Son 7 Scholar b. Cornwall Newquay
Edith Ennor Daur 6 Scholar b. Cornwall Newquay
Joseph Ennor Son 2 b. Cornwall Newquay
Mary S Hooper Visitor Unm 19 Living on own means b. Cornwall Newquay
Mary J Osborne Sick Visitor Unm 23 Sick Nurse b. Cornwall Trebellan Cubert
Bessie Hocking Servt Unm 15 Housemaid b. Cornwall Newquay

These are the only possibles I can see but places of birth do not fit:-

Name: Maria Elamer
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Colne Engaine, Essex, England
Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 9a Colgrove Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

John Elamer 23 - head
Maria Elamer 24 - wife
Susie Elamer 17 - sister

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1707; Folio: 52; Page: 40; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341408.

Kath. x

Couldn't be this family, could it?

1881 - Fancy Shop, St Columb Minor, Cornwall
John Ennor Head Mar 26 Carpenter b. London Islington
Maria Ennor Wife Mar 25 (Berlini?) and Fancy Repository b. Cornwall Newquay
Edward Ennor Son 2 b. Cornwall Newquay
Amelia Ennor Daur 13m b. Cornwall Newquay
Mary Selina Hooper Visitor Unm 9 Scholar b. Cornwall Cabert
Lavinia Hoskin Serv Unm 17 Domestic Servant b. Cornwall Cabert

Hi Kath,
The reference of the 1901 census is RG 13/1579 if that is what you need.
The household is John Elmore age 46 (born Essex Barking 1854)
Maria 45 Dagenham 1855
George 12 Custom House
(Should be Jane) Jame 16 Epsom,Custom House
Rhoda 10 Custom House
William 19 Upton Park


Thank you very much Rose

Thanks Kath, I will do that. Just digging out my notes.

Rose

Can you give the details of where to find them on the 1901 census, to make it easier to know exactly who we are looking for in the 1881 census?

Kath. x

Hi,
Is anyone able to tell me why I cannot find my gt grandfather and his family on the 1881 census other than they went on holiday!
I have looked at other phonetic surnames i.e. Ellmore, Elmor,Elmer but cannot find them. I have the details from 1901 but it is possible that another child was born before 1885 which
may not appear on the 1901 census as they married in 1873.

Many thanks Rose