Genealogy Chat

The Reformation was c1515.

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The second half of Henry's reign was dominated by two issues very important for the later history of England and the monarchy: the succession and the Protestant Reformation, which led to the formation of the Church of England.

Yes, we were all Catholic until Henry the V111th decided to to do his own thing !

Margaret I thought the UK was catholic until Henry VIII broke away so that he could divorce Catherine of Aragon

I am a bit slow on history, but I believe the Catholic Church was not supposed to exist prior to the mid 1700s. All marriages had to take place in a C of E church, though the law wasn't fussed about christenings or deaths. I also believe that Quakers and Jews were allowed to do their own thing.

Margaret

Here we go.....taken from the Birmingham Archive Service

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Usually known as the IGI, this is the index compiled by the Mormons for religious purposes, first published in 1973, and later made available to genealogists

Limitations

The index is not comprehensive as the researchers were not allowed access to all parish registers. There is a list of the parishes covered for each county on microfiches in the Archives and Heritage Service. There are few records for Nonconformists and these are almost all prior to 1837. There are very few records for Roman Catholic churches and no Quaker or Jewish records. Reliability?


The IGI should be used with caution. Some of the information is unreliable.

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A close friend is an RC priest who confirmed that his record books are kept firmly under lock and key!!

As the Church of England is the state church, the registers were probably considered to be more of a public record.

Hi Cynthia - there are lots of Catholic families on there - Mormons are not fussy who they grab apparently - havenlt seen any Islamists on there yet, but it's early days!!!!

I think I have read somewhere that RC records are not usually found on IGI as the RC church does not allow its records to be copied. Likewise Jewish and Quaker records. The dear old C of E does not seem to have reservations in that quarter!!!

if they have been foolish enough to baptise my Dad he'll be hopping mad - he was a committed atheist!!!!

Dont worry nobody can be christened into another religion without their knowledge.
Any conversion has to be when the person is alive and they have an informed choice.
As for marrying people off to each other. How ridiculous is that.

The Mormans are misapplying a scripture about Pauls mentioning the custom of baptism on behalf of the dead 1Corinthians 15 29.
The existence of such a practice in Pauls day cannot be proved. Rather disciples themselves had to embrace the word and personally believe were the ones to be baptized.
Infants back then were not baptized only adults

Having said it's a good resource, I don't think many, if any of my ancestors/relatives became Mormons, because the only relatives I can find are submitted - ie not checked and put en mass.

When I was at Uni, studying religion an Elder came to talk to us. Unfortunately we were warned not to be rude *major sulk*!!
I asked him if he thought it ethical to convert people after they were dead. His reply was to the effect that it was part of the religious routine to convert as many ancestors as possible so that they may be 'saved' come armageddon.
I pointed out that not everyone wanted to be saved and asked why they were converting whole parishes.
His reply? Some of them may be related to a Mormon!!!

Bit like the tree snatcher - I'll take the whole lot, I may be related to one - don't know when - but if I get back far enough...........LOL

I thought it must be LDS but was hoping that there may have been another reason.

I have one person christened in 1810, he/she has 1980! I just find the whole idea of christening dead relations rather repulsive & as for being remarried off to my ex, well...................enough said!

It's not just the unchristened they convert!
They also 'convert' those who were baptised/christened as children when they have found them in their tree - they have also gone around baptising/converting whole parishes, until the vicars realised what was going on.
I would look again at the people in the tree - you'll probably find them christened in their local church, at tthe 'usual' age!!

The LDS may be a good genealogy resource - but at what price!????
I have no religion, but still feel it's my right not to become a member of the Mormon church after I die!!

Yes you're right Ann, I was hoping that someone could come up with an alternative.

Whilst I'm aware of Mormon practice, I'm not going to hand over my relations on a plate to have them converted, not when G Granny was chapel!

apparently the Mormon Church christen all those in the records who have not been christened and I also heard that they also marry people off to each other!!!!

I've just been given access to a tree where every relation has been christened after they died.

Please can anyone think of a reason for this apart from the obvious?

Thank you