Genealogy Chat

I have obtained a marriage cert. and the following details match with the person I hope it is:-

Brides name ...................Jane Mawdsley

Her fathers name............James Mawdsley

Fathers occupation.......Engine man, a little boasting I think.

Place of birth, Wigan according to the 1881 census, .....I need Kirkby

Date of birth............... 1857, I need 1853ish

Witness one seems to be her employer, John Occleshaw as she is living at his address in the 1881 census and on the marriage cert.

Witness two, could be the grooms sister, Jane Taylor


In the 1891 census a Jane Taylor born 1852 is recorded as a widow and sister in law in the household of George Massie, in Bootle.

Are there too many "no`s and not enough "yes`s" to make this cert "mine". Please don`t shout your replies to me as I do feel a little delicate today an feel like I need a little TLC lol

kathlyn

For ref


1861 England Census
about Jane Mawdsley
Name: Jane Mawdsley
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Helen
Gender: Female
Where born: England

Civil Parish: Kirkby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
James Mawdsley 36
Helen Mawdsley 31
Margaret Mawdsley 12
Mary Mawdsley 10
Jane Mawdsley 8
Helen Mawdsley 5
Elizabeth Mawdsley 2
George Mawdsley 1 Mo
John Blakie 52

So Jane is 4 years younger than you expected her to be? How old is the groom? she may have dropped a few years so as not to appear older than him.

Nicky

Thanks for that diddydoris.

I do have that info, but your interest is very much appreciated.

I just had an inspirational idea !!!!!!!!! My Jane was a servant in the 1871 census in her home town of Kirkby, so I did a 10 year marriage cert on freeBMD, that is 1872-1881, using the names Jane Mawdesley and William Taylor in the Lancashire area, and only one was found and that is the cert I have.

Did "ladies" lie about their age in them days?

Did people embroider their family occupations?

As for the 1881 census, I think the enumerator just bunched her place of birth with the head of the household.

I feel a little happier now.

1871 England Census
about Jane Mawdsley
Name: Jane Mawdsley
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Kirkby, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Kirkby
Ecclesiastical parish: Walton St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 159
Household Members:
Name Age
John Barley 68
Ann Barley 69
Mary Barley 38
Jane Basley 30
Jane Mawdsley 19

Back in the day, they told all sorts of porkies, went by different names, different ages and different professions.

Hello Nikkidown south

On the marriage cert they both give their ages as 24.

I do have proof that "my" Jane was born in 1853, and the age on the marriage cert would have had them both being born in 1857.

I suppose that a girl who had been in service all her life would jump at any chance to "grab a man", even if that meant telling pokies about her age.

If ony they had known the headaches us decendents would have trying to piece together bits of info, made more difficult by them trying to appear younger.

Never mind, what else would I be doing if I was not sat here pulling my hair out........Housework, ironing, walking the dos, etc etc etc.

Hi
There is this one on the IGI

JANE MAWDSLEY Female
Christening: 14 AUG 1853 Saint Chad, Kirkby By Melling, Lancashire, England
Parents:
Father: JAMES MAWDSLEY Family
Mother: ELLEN

On the 1861 the mother is Helen, very easy to mistake for Ellen.

Regards

Ruth

Hi
Following on from my previous post I have found this on ancestry
Jane Mawdsley
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 314

Kirkby By Melling would possibly have come under the district of West Derby, as it covered a very large area.

Regards

Ruth

Yes kathlyn ,unfortunatly they did tell an awful lot of Porkies, ........I`m sure they did it to wind us up years later....lol not to mention that every minister/vicar wasn`t meticulous about the information, half the time i think they just wrote down what they THOUGHT they`d heard them say.....!!!


I`m one ahead of you I`ve already walked the dog, and done some housework,now i`m just going to ignore that BIG pile of ironing {As I have been all day] coz this is much more fun......


Nicky

Nicky

I keep telling him, "Just one more minute".....I will either have a chopper through my head or the divorce papers through the door.

lol

kathlyn