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Hi

I'm trying to trace the parents of William Kesterton (1850) and his brother Thomas (1847). Both born in Tamworth, staffs. In the 1871 census they were both living with an Elizabeth Kesterton born ca 1813 and were both listed as her son-in-law.

What I don't understand is how they would both be son-in law to the same woman and how their mother in law would have the same surname as themselves? I thought they might be step=sons but on the same census page a different family as a step son listed so I would imagine it's not that 'step son' terminology didn't exist.

I've tried to find them earlier but can't find any trace of them in 1851 or 1861.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Lisa

1851 census

Name William Kesterton
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1851
Relationship to Head of Household SON
Occupation Juvenile
Address Market Street
District Tamworth, Tamworth
Parish
Administrative County Staffordshire
Birth Place Tamworth
Birth County WARWICKSHIRE
in house
thomas head 48
ann 40
elizabeth 12
henrty 7
thomas 5
ann 2
william 6 months
maria perker servant 16
HO 107 / 2013

hi here he is 1901
1901 census

Address ... Brough St
Civil Parish Derby
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Barrabus
Parliamentary Borough or Division Derby Southern Div
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Derby
Administrative County Derbyshire
Householder 1
Name Alice M S Hesterton
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 16
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbyshire Derby
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Beatrice Kesterton
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 9
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbyshire Derby
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Jane Kesterton
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 46
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Staffs Elford
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name W Reginald Kesterton
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 11
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Derbyshire Derby
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name William Kesterton
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 51
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Railway Goods Porter
Employment Status
Where Born Staffs Tamworth
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name William J Kesterton
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 22
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Artificial Arm Constructor
Employment Status
Where Born Derbyshire Derby
Language
Infirmity

son in law did not mean what it does today. It means adopted son, though there was no formal adoption. as such.
So in your case it probably does mean that they were her husbands sons, but not hers.

It can mean step son

Lack of uniformity on the page about the relationship (e.g., son-in-law in one household and stepson in another) isn't too surprising as the enumerator's copying returns filled in by half a dozen different heads of household per page

and by 1891, Elizabeth was a pauper in the workhouse.



sylvia

so here they are in 1851 with their parents

1851 Census

Name: Thos Kesterton
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Tamworth, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Tamworth
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Tamworth
Sub registration district: Tamworth

Thos Kesterton 48 b.ca 1803, Sutton Coldfield, Warwickshire, Licensed Victualler
Ann Kesterton 40 b.ca 1811, Tamworth, Staffordshire
Elizabth Kesterton 12
Henry Kesterton 7
Thos Kesterton 5
Ann Kesterton 2
Wm Kesterton 6 Mo
Maria Parker 16

Address:- Market Street, Tamworth




sylvia

Thomas and Ann's marriage from the International Genealogical Index on www.familysearch.org

THOMAS KESTERTON Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: ANN FIELD Family
Marriage: 09 JUL 1837 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M010724 1832 - 1844 0919783-0919785 Film 6900689 Film
M010724 1844 - 1857 0919786-0919788 Film NONE
M010724 1857 - 1879 0919789-0919791 Film 6900689 Film



and from www.freebmd.org.uk in case you want to get their marriage certificate ..................... just days after registration began!!!


Marriages Sep 1837 (>99%)

BAKER William Birmingham 16 231
BARNS Mary Ann Birmingham 16 231
CLAYTON Mary Birmingham 16 231
DENHAM Charles Birmingham 16 231
>>>>FIELD Ann Birmingham 16 231
>>>>KESTERTON Thomas Birmingham 16 231
KINSEY William Selkirk Birmingham 16 231
WHITEHOUSE Ann Birmingham 16 231


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Ann's death registration


Deaths Mar 1859 (92%)

Kesterton Ann Tamworth 6b 267

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Thomas and Elizabeth's marriage

Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)

Deville John Tamworth 6b 548
>>>>Kesterton Thomas Tamworth 6b 548
>>>>Roe Elizabeth Tamworth 6b 548
Starkey Frances Tamworth 6b 548

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Thomas' death registration ....... there are two who are registered in Tamworth. The age on the second fits with the census information on your Thomas, but of course it doesn't what age the first was!

Deaths Mar 1865 (>99%)

KESTERTON Thomas Tamworth 6b 24



Deaths Jun 1868 (>99%)

Kesterton Thomas 63 Tamworth 6b 205


sylvia

children with parents Thomas Kesterton and Ann(e), born in Tamowrth, from the I G I on fmailysearch ..... all are extracted records



ELIZABETH KESTERTON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 01 DEC 1839
Christening: 05 JAN 1840 Tamworth, Stafford, England

HENRY KESTERTON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 18 MAR 1843
Christening: 06 APR 1843 Tamworth, Stafford, England

THOMAS KESTERTON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 25 APR 1846
Christening: 28 MAY 1846 Tamworth, Stafford, England

ANNE KESTERTON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 12 JUN 1848
Christening: 05 JUL 1848 Tamworth, Stafford, England

WILLIAM KESTERTON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 07 FEB 1850
Christening: 12 MAR 1851 Tamworth, Stafford, England

JOHN KESTERTON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 25 MAY 1852
Christening: 23 JUN 1852 Tamworth, Stafford, England
Death: 18 DEC 1856


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Thomas and Elizabeth's marriage from the I G I

Thomas Kesterton Pedigree
Male Family

Parents:
Father: Thomas Kesterton Family

Marriages:
Spouse: Elizabeth Roe Family
Marriage: 08 NOV 1860 Tamworth, Stafford, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M010068 1845 - 1898 1526133 Film NONE



sylvia

I wonder if this is Elizabeth Roe in 1851??

1851 Census

Name: Elizabeth Roe
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingsbury, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Tamworth
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Tamworth
Sub registration district: Tamworth

Thomas Roe 43 b.ca 1808, Tamowrth, Staffordshire, Milkman
Elizabeth Roe 36
Thomas Roe 15

Address:- Lichfield St


sylvia

Hi

Thanks for everyone's help!

I think it was the abbreviated first names which were preventing me from finding them!

Kind regards

Lisa