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It could be them. Now which certs do I send off for first? My mind has gone completely blank, any ideas any one?

Could this be the parents marriage or just a longshot?

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1838
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ATHERTON Richard MOLYNEUX Mary St. Thomas, Upholland Preston CE20/1/16

sorry have had to take son out in car - he's learning to drive - I must have done something terrible in a past life - lol!!

The Barton one is definitely my lot and there is a possibility that Margaret had a second name Jane. So that christening could be mine

Anybody seen Anne.....................?

There's this one on BVRI but 10 years too late:

ATHERTON, Margaret Jane Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 25 Jan 1869 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: Richard ATHERTON
Mother: Mary Jane
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1864 - 1869

And her brothers:

ATHERTON, Samuel Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 31 Oct 1864 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: Richard ATHERTON
Mother: Mary Jane
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1864 - 1869

ATHERTON, Thomas Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 18 Feb 1867 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: Richard ATHERTON
Mother: Mary Jane
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1864 - 1869

wonder if there is a connection here as in the 1861 given Richard's son James is a blacksmith

Baptisms: 25 Jan 1869 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Margaret Jane Atherton - Child of Richard Atherton & Mary Jane
Abode: Ince
Occupation: Blacksmith
Baptised by: A H Hodd, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1868 - 1869 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 38, Entry 298
Source: LDS Film 1469056

I see that by 1871 there was another child William Henry (if the above 1861 is the correct family)

This will possibly be his birth.


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Births Sep 1861 (>99%)
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ATHERTON William Henry Barton 8c 458

The district Barton is an alternative name for Barton upon Irwell and it is in the county of Lancashire;



As has been said, Margaret and Sarah's births may not have been registered (not compulsory until 1875) but if you buy this one and it turns out to be correct, you will at least find out mother's maiden name.

there is this one but district for Sutton is St Helens

Baptisms: 20 Apr 1856 St Nicholas, Sutton, Lancashire, England
Sarah Anne Atherton - Daughter of Richard Atherton & Mary
Abode: Sutton
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: H. E. F. Vallancey Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1849 - 1870, Page 49, Entry 353
Source: LDS Film 1657568

1861

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ATHERTON, Richard Head Married M 44 1817 Mechanic
Wigan
Lancashire
ATHERTON, Mary Wife Married F 43 1818
Orwell
Lancashire
ATHERTON, James Son Unmarried M 22 1839 Blacksmith
Wigan
Lancashire
ATHERTON, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 18 1843 Cotton Operative
Wigan
Lancashire
ATHERTON, Mary Daughter F 16 1845 Cotton Operative
Wigan
Lancashire
ATHERTON, Richard Son M 14 1847 Mechanic
Wigan
Lancashire
ATHERTON, Robert Son M 7 1854 Scholar
Wigan
Lancashire
ATHERTON, Sarah Ann Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar
Sutton VIEW
ATHERTON, Margaret Jane Daughter F 2 1859 Scholar
Wigan
Lancashire

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
2863 Folio:
9 Page:
11

Registration District:
Barton-Upon-Irwell Sub District:
2 Barton EnumerationDistrict:
FOUR H Ecclesiastical Parish:
Eccles

Civil Parish:
Barton upon Irwell Municipal Borough:
Address:
Liverpool Road, Barton Upon Irwell County:
Lancashire

This ties up with the christening found by SomersetGirl.

Maybe this for Sarah Ann in 1855

Births Dec 1855 (>99%)
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Atherton Sarah Ann Wigan 8c 19

LancsBMD has 3 Margarets born about same time. One is Pemberton, Wigan in 1858....the others are Hindley and Upholland in 1859.
It's a free site if you want to look.

If you believe the one in 1858 to be correct, the GRO ref is
4th QTR 1858, Wigan 8c/80

They may not have been registered!

Sorry yes, Margaret Atherton was born around 1859 and her sister Sarah (middle name possibly Ann) was born around 1856. I have today received an email from GRO saying the cert I had request didn't have Richard as the father - the details were Sarah Atherton 1856/June/Wigan/8c 68

Hi Anne, have you got some dates for us please?

I am tearing my hair out trying to get birth certs for my husband's great grandmothers, they were sisters, Margaret and Sarah Atherton from Wigan (according to census records) and I have their father's name as Richard (according to marriage certs) I have tried to get their birth certs from the GRO but keep coming to a dead end as the father's name isn't right - There are a lot of Athertons from Wigan. Any suggestions would really be appreciated and my scalp would appreciate it too!