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I have a copy of my gggg grandads Marriage Cert for 1818 At st Winifrids church Calverley W, yorkshire ,Samuel Clayton to Mary fieldhouse, But it dose'nt give his Parents name, The think is He was born in Bowling Bradford About 1795/1798,And the only one born in bowling about that time died in infancy, How do I find the right one.
jean

How can you be sure this is your gggg grandfather? I'm not sure how you can connect someone who was listed as a visitor in 1851 to this marriage record.

Rose

There is a Samuel Clayton christened Bradford 08 May 1796 son of Thomas Clayton and Mary - familysearch - or is this the one you know to have died in infancy?-J Le

Certificates for births marriages and deaths were not issued until the start of registration on July 1 1837


what you have must be a copy of the entry in the parish register ..... and they often did not show parents' names.


I presume this is what you have ....... this is from the International Genealogical Index on www.familysearch.org, the Mormon site ...... and it is an EXTRACTED record taken from the parish register, not a certificate


SAMUEL CLAYTON Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

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Marriages:
Spouse: MARY FIELDHOUSE Family
Marriage: 26 JUL 1818 Calverley, Yorkshire, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M007252 1813 - 1834 0990547, 0990548 Film 6909570 Film





sylvia

Jean sent a pm to say that this was what she had.


Jean

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sylvia

Jean sent a pm to say that the Samuel Clayton born 1796 did die in infancy-JLe

New message to Portland Rose
My Samuel had 10 Children, my gg grandad was Fieldhouse Clayton B 1820 Married Emma Clegg in Dewsbury, 1847 They had 9 children, with James being my g grandad, B1859 married peace Salina Buckley 1882, my grandad was Herbert Clayton B1883,
I have Samuel ,Widower living With is Daughter Emma and somtimes with Hannah.
From Jean

from the I G I on familysearch.org


FIELDHOUSE CLAYTON Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 20 APR 1821 Bradford, Yorkshire, England


Parents:
Father: SAML. CLAYTON Family
Mother: MARY

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C107651 1813 - 1825 0990533-0990535 Film 6911014 Film




sylvia

Now this is interesting

It's from the free site www.rootsweb.com, so you can go look at it yourself.

Enter Samuel Clayton on the home page

Scroll down and enter born Yorkshire, 1801 +/- 5 years

that gives ONE record.

Click on the tree owner's name

then follow through to find his listing of Clayton.


He has this Samuel Clayton married to Mary Fairburn, but the marriage date is different from what you have from familysearch. Other information is also different.

You may want to contact him


ID: I73074
Name: Samuel CLAYTON
Surname: Clayton
Given Name: Samuel
Sex: M
Birth: 1797 in Clifton, Yorkshire WR
Christening: 17 Sep 1797 Hartshead, Yorkshire WR 1
_UID: CE4C0517068FFF40B46BE3ACD8FBDDDF478D
Census: 1841 Clifton, Yorkshire WR 2
Census: 1851 Clifton, Yorkshire WR 3
Note: 1 _IFLAGS 0
Change Date: 4 Jul 2004 at 01:00:00

Father: William CLAYTON b: 1762 in Clifton, Yorkshire WR c: 8 Jan 1763 in Hartshead, Yorkshire WR
Mother: Sarah NAYLOR

Marriage 1 Mary FAIRBURN b: 1796 in Clifton, Hartshead, Yorkshire WR c: 17 Apr 1796 in Hartshead, Yorkshire WR
Married: 22 Apr 1819 in Hartshead, Yorkshire WR 4

Sources:
Title: Hartshead St Peters Parish
Note:
1 _TYPE Church Record
Note: Christening
Text: Samuel son of William Clayton of Clifton Wiredrawer baptised
Date: 17 Sep 1797
Title: 1841 Census
Publication: Transcribed by Hudd & Dist FHS
Note:
1 _TYPE Census
Text: Dwelling : Westgate
Samuel CLAYTON, Head, 40, Inkeeper, YKS
Mary CLAYTON, 40, YKS
Ann CLAYTON, 15 Fs
Title: 1851 census
Publication: Transcribed by Huddersfield & District FHS.
Note:
1 _TYPE Census
Note: SAmuel Clayton
Text: Dwelling :Clifton
Samuel CLAYTON, Head, M, 51 Farmer, Clifton
Hannah CLAYTON, Wife, M, 45, Farmers wife, Skipton
Susannah Halmshaw, Ser, 15, Skipton
Elizabeth Pickles, Vis, U, Skipton
Title: Hartshead St Peters Parish
Note:
1 _TYPE Church Record
Text: Samuel Clayton, bachelor, OTP
married
Mary Fairburn, spinster, OTP
by Banns
Date: 22 Apr 1819





sylvia

The Samuel born Clifton is a different Samuel.


1861 England Census
about Samuel Clayton
Name: Samuel Clayton
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Clifton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Clifton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Brighouse


1861 England Census
about Samuel Clayton
Name: Samuel Clayton
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Bowling, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradford
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford East End

Jean, I don't understand what you mean when you said.

"I have Samuel ,Widower living With is Daughter Emma and somtimes with Hannah"

Christine

Christine, there's an Emma with him as another boarder in 1861; unmarried, Worsted Weaver, born Bowling.


Ozi.

Hi Ozi,

I had seen that just didn't add all the household. She must be his daughter as is with the family in 1841 although Samuels age is only given as 35 in 1841 and even allowing for the roundind down it still makes him born a lot later.

1841 England Census
about Samuel Clayton
Name: Samuel Clayton
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradford
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford East End
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Clayton 35
Mary Clayton 35
Feildhouse Clayton 20
Emma Clayton 8
Sarah Clayton 2



What I meant was that it is a different Samuel living with Hannah so not sure what Jean means.


Christine

1841 England Census
Name: Samuel Clayton
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Bradford
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: Wakefield Road

Occupation: wool stapler

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford East End
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Clayton 35
Mary Clayton 35
Feildhouse Clayton 20 - wool sorter
Emma Clayton 8
Sarah Clayton 2

There's also a James Clayton (aged 40, tailor) & his family in Wakefield Rd.

With you now. The messages get a little distorted when not everything is on the thread.

Ozi.

Hi All
In the 1861 Cen I have Samuel living in Bowling back lane with daughter Emma (bording) age 63?. is Daughter Hannah Seaner lived near by, and i beleived that Samuel died while out walking with Hannah in 1862.

In the 1851 cen it says he was 56 so i think this would rule out the 1888 and 1889 births, so i think it would put him at about 1895/97 birth age,and its definitely that he was born in Bowling Bradford.
jean

Thank you all for your help.
It looks like I will never find the date of birth For Samuel or is parents, But living in hope.
thanks again
jean