Genealogy Chat

It seems that the father of your dad acknowledged him and wanted to bring him up.
For call up papers to arrive when he was 18-from the States must mean he is recorded somewhere !
Not having a surname is a real problem !
You have some details of the Court Case why not approach Wakefield and see if any record of the case survives ?
Worth a try ?
Although your dad is not particularly interested after all this time I assume he would support you if they (the Court) wanted his permission to release any info they (may) have

As your grans parents did not want her to leave they could well have blocked any correspondence from him.

Elizabeth
P.S
This just hit me, someone would have been keeping in touch!
My Dad was born in Berkshire 1944 and him and my Gran moved to Yorkshire (this is where my Gran was from) when my Dad was about a year old. Then in 1956 my Gran married and moved again so for the call up papers to find my Dad would mean someone was keeping someone informed, unless they went to my Great Grans address (the address my Gran and Dad came back to from Berks) and she passed them on.
The strange thing is my Great Gran kept in touch with a friend in America, someone related to her next door neighbour. I have wrote to this Lady (at the time I didn't even know whether she was still alive), she is 93 years old and I thought she might hold the key but sadly no she doesn't know anything, but her married name (Walters) did bring up a question mark for me being told my Grandfather had a German background.
Regards Lisa

Hi Elizabeth,
They went to Wakefield crown court I believe, thought about the court still holding info but not sure I can do/get this.
I was told by my dad that the only thing he ever got was the call up papers, so I believe no maintainence was being paid.
I do know that my Grandfather (usa) wanted my Grandma and Dad to go back to America when the war was over, but my Grandma's family put a stop to this and wouldn't let them go.
It's just one of those things you don't know where to start, my Dad isn't bothered about finding his if any family in the US but I would like to know if I have Aunts/Uncles etc over seas.
Lisa

His name must be on some document ?

How would they know he was 18 or where to send papers in this country.
There was still conscription into the Us forces in 1962

Was the mother receiving some sort of maintainence ?
If so it may have come via a Court-though that does not help much !

Which Court in this country did they go to-would there be records there ?

Thanks mgnv,
Worth a look isn't it.
My Father went to court, but is very vague about what was said or happened there. I have been told, that my Dads step-father said we'll sort this when the papers came and that's when they went to court and all my Dad told me was he didn't have to go (yes it was Viet Nam). My thoughts are that most definitely that there is some record somewhere about my Dad, why else would the papers have come in the first place (and this piece of paper will have had all the answers on it).
Will look into the SSN etc
Thanks again Lisa

In 1962-ish, the only people who were eligible for conscription were American citizens and resident aliens (i.e., green card holders). Since I doubt he was the latter, I presume his dad must have registered his birth in the USA. As you know, there's no national system of birth registration in the UK - each country has its own system, e.g., you can't send to the GRO for a Scottish cert. Well, that system was exported to the US when it was a bunch of colonies (same with Aus & Canada), and now each state (/province) does its own thing, so finding a birth is non-trivial. However, he might have also been given a Social Security Number, so that's another thing you could check on. Finally, possibly the easiest way to get out of serving might have been for Barry to renounce his citizenship, and maybe there's a list of those folks, too. Two years service in 1862 would have put him in uniform in 1964, possibly in time for the first build-up of US forces in Viet Nam.

In 1830-1910, the USA had 25.5m immigrants from Europe and 1.2m from Canada-Newfoundland. Of those, 5m from GB, 2m from Ireland, 4.4m from Germany and 3.5m from Austro-Hungary. You may recall that, although the UK entered WW2 against Germany on 3/9/1939, the USA didn't enter WW2 against Germany until Germany declared war on the USA 11/12/1941 shortly after Pearl Harbor, thereby solving president Roosevelt's political problems of a substantial German ethnic minority.

Hi Kath, thanks will give it a try, you never know. Have looked at the trace site too but think I'm a little way off this yet need his name first, oh way do people feel the need to keep everything from their family.
Lisa x

Found this website by Googling (its for the American Department of Defence):-

http://www.defenselink.mil/

If you scroll to the bottom there is a "contact us" button.

You could send them an email and ask if it would be possible to find out who gave Barry's details for them to send call up papers. However it may be to long ago for them to have details, but worth a try.

Kath. x

Thanks, have asked all I know that knew Barry's Mother. Have to well feel I have to add her that Barry is my Father and he was told nothing about his Father until his wedding day, when my Grandma told him his Father was a twin, an American with German background. The only other info I know about his that when my Dad was 18 he was sent call up papers from america. Which my Dads step father after going to court throw in the fire. Have looked a various sites but without his name etc not sure if I can do anything, is there anywhere I could write to to see if there is any info?
My thoughts on this is that somewhere someone must have details hence the call up papers, but like many I guess I have left this too long.

Do you know of any friends of the baby's mother who might have known her at the time of the birth? They may know the name of the person she was seeing at the time.

Other than that I doubt whether you are likely to find the father's name.

Kath. x

Hi, Thanks but no name on his birth or marriage certificate. I know Barry's Father isn't a Hutchinson, his Mother gave him her family name. Sadly anyone with info on this have passed away and before anyone took an interest in the family tree.

If you're looking for Barry's dad's name, then the name might appear on Barry's birth certificate, or Barry might have named him on his own marriage certificate.

Hutchinson born 1944 Berkshire England. Trying to find my American Grandfather's family...don't have a name, all I know is that he was in England WW2 based at Berkshire (Reading?). He had a Son Barry born 1944. Mother and Child stayed in England when he returned home.
Does anyone know where I can find some info or help on this?