Genealogy Chat

Just checking through your messages, thanks. As Dee pointed out I have had little success in finding this George and George Snr together. George Snr is stated as being a Newspaper Reporter on his son's marriage certificate but I am very dubious of this. I don't even know for sure if George Snr was actually registered as George at birth. There are so many things that could be wrong about the certificate but this is all I have to go on. Without George jnr. exact date of birth I cannot proceed as it would just be guess work.
I realise you are giving up your time very kindly to help me in my search and I do appreciate it greatly. I have been trying unsuccessfully to get further back with my tree for about four of five years now but to no avail.

Hi Ricochet,

I had a quick look at the other posts.............

None found with George as the father. Apparently George Snr was a Newspaper Reporter, however as you and I both know often the occupations were "bumpfed" up........

Lucy has had little response really with her postings, I suppose the surname may have been mistranscribed into many forms???


Dee xx

Was there an occupation recorded for the father on the marriage cert?

Or was he, by chance, 'deceased'?

What info was found on your other thread? I, for one, don't want to use up time looking for that which has already been found and given to you.........

Hi Lucy,

What was the occupation listed on the marraige cert for the father;

1901 England Census
about George Keech
Name: George Keech
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Geoge
Mother's Name: Harriett
Gender: Male
Where born: Battersea, London, England

Civil parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas Clapham Common
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Southwest Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Household Members: Name Age
Geoge Keech 52 <<<<<<<<<< bricklayer
Harriett Keech 50
Jesse W Keech 24
Martha L Keech 22
Dan W W Keech 18
Lucy Keech 15
George Keech 11

Thanks once again for your help.
I have his marriage certificate and he was married at the age of 21 in 1912. His father's name is given as George Keetch also, but when I have tried to look them both up on the census they do not appear together. I have found two George Keetch (age 9/10) on 1901 census but neither have a father named George.
I pressume they were all born in London.
Yes, I have posted another thread looking for the same man. I was hoping to get some more info from his medals card as I've tried every other way I can think of.
You are all so kind in helping out, thanks again.
Lucy

Sorry I cannot find army records using George's regiment No, there are several George Keetch listed.

Do you have any idea of birthplace or year? A quick birth search gives the possibilities below

George Keetch 1844 Oct-Nov-Dec Chard Devon, Dorset, Somerset

George Keetch 1844 Oct-Nov-Dec Chard Devon, Dorset, Somerset

George Keetch 1845 Jan-Feb-Mar St Martin in The Fields Middlesex

John George Keetch 1861 Apr-May-Jun Langport Somerset

George Keetch 1864 Apr-May-Jun Yeovil Somerset

Frederick George Keetch 1882 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London, Middlesex

Harold George Keetch 1889 Jan-Feb-Mar Woolwich Greater London, Kent, London

Alfred George Keetch 1891 Jul-Aug-Sep Berkhampstead (1837-1939) Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire

George Keetch 1891 Apr-May-Jun Hampstead Greater London, London, Middlesex

George Keetch 1892 Jul-Aug-Sep Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex

Reginald George Keetch 1893 Jul-Aug-Sep Yeovil Somerset

William George Keetch 1897 Oct-Nov-Dec Shoreditch London, Middlesex

George Keetch 1899 Jan-Feb-Mar Pancras (1837-1901) London, Middlesex

William George Keetch 1900 Oct-Nov-Dec Fulham Greater London, London, Middlesex

Robert George Keetch 1904 Apr-May-Jun Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex

George Keetch 1905 Jan-Feb-Mar Edmonton Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex

George Keetch 1905 Oct-Nov-Dec Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex

Have you asked about this man on another thread?

Or is another GR member researching the same man?

If all you want is his DOB, start by obtaining his marriage cert, which will have his age....and his father's details.

Then look for him on a census, to find his birthplace, and check freebmd for a birth reg'n.

No military records for him on Ancestry - apart, of course, from the Medal Card

His military records, if they've survived - lots didn't- will be on Ancestry. They won't give date of birth though, but will give at least the year and in some cases will give an idea of the month, i.e. they might say he was 20 years and 5 months when he enlisted in a particular month of 1916 for example.

Thanks everyone for your input, I will put all the info I have on the card below :-

George Keetch - Royal Garrison Artillery, Gunner regimental number 315227.
Territorial Force Royal Garrison Artillery 108 division. Page 716.
Won the Victory medal and the British Medal.

That is every bit of information on the medal card.
I really want to find his exact date of birth, is there anywhere I can look for his military records?
Lucy

If you care to put his name etc on here, we can check if there is anything on Ancestry................

Thanks for the replies.
My great grandfather was in the Royal Garrison Artillery 108 battalion as a gunner (WW1) . He won the victory medal and the British medal. It states on his medal card page 716 (I don't know the relevance of this).
Lucy

It's a bit hard to tell without details or seeing your great grandad medal card, but generally you can tell from a medal card whether the soldier served overseas, and if he saw active service or not, by his British War medal, Victory Medal entitlement. If he recieved any gallantry medals it is often possible to find more info on those via the announcement of their award in the London Gazette searchable online. If he got a SWB Silver War Badge this will indicate he was either invalided out sick or wounded or retired on grounds of age before end of the war.

The figures after the Medals he recieved are the references for his entry on the Medal Rolls. These are at Kew, and sometimes, though not always, give Battalion or unit, which will open up the possibilities of finding and tracing the battalions movements during the war, through war diaries etc.

Ultimately though nothing will replace having his service records, though sadly 70% of these were destroyed in WWII Bombing. You might get lucky though.

(I'm assuming here g-grandad was from the ranks...if he was an officer his service records far more likely to exist)

Was this WW1?

Was he in the Army?

I have got the records of my great grandfathers war medals and his rank. Is there any way I can find out any more details about him from this?