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One of my families was completely missing from one of the census returns, and I later found that the head of family served with the army in India. I believe it was common for the whole family to go, which was why I couldn't find any of them.
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Shirley
If you trace back Mercy's family you will also see that when she was living with her mother (Tamsin/Tamson Jeffery) there were also other grandchildren, these may or may not be Mercy's also (she also had several other unmarried siblings living at home).
If these are her children and they also went on to get married she may also have lived near them for a period. The oldest appears to be a Benjamin Jeffery, Mary Jane Jeffery and earlier Elizabeth (either another siblings child or died?) Bear in mind some of these children may be her sister Ann's or her brother Thomas'.
Given the number of illegitimate children there seem to have been (unless Mercy married another Jeffery) I wonder if Samuel's mother would just leave him to be bought up by his grandparents or not? Is it also possible that his mother married and the new husband wanted nothing to do with her unwed child? This would definately also explain why she would not be a topic for conversation...
Just throwing out some ideas. Hope you get a break through soon.
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Thanks you ladies for your responses.
Yes,it was Rose's response that lead me to the 1901 transcription error.Much appreciated.I would never have zeroed in on the family with an apparent granddaughter.
I thought I would try a new post with a different emphasis ie.the general subject of missing census entries.I dont hold out much hope of finding the family in the 1891 census - having tried all combinations of spelling,and having looked for partial family eg.any two of them at the same location on census night.
Little is known of the family history from the time of Samuel George's birth
in 1886 until he surfaces in Glamorgan in the 1890's with his maternal grandmother and her husband.We have a school certificate from that region with his name on it-dated 1897.We know that his uncle Walter Jeffery married a Welsh lady - Catherine,and they show up in the 1891 and 1901 census for Porth,Glamorgan.We believe that the move to Wales was so that Samuel George could be near family [cousins].His [unwed] mother Elizabeth is supposed to have died "while he was young",but he was never given any details of her death.Part of our research will be to confirm the death of Elizabeth between 1886 and the 1901 census,but without a year/location this may prove a challenge.It could prove expensive to keep on purchasing death certificates of likely candidates,only to find we have the wrong person.
At the risk of sounding like a soap opera author,there is a slight possibility that unwed Elizabeth [16yo at the time of Pop's birth] moved on to start a new life-leaving Pop with his grandparents.His absolute lack of knowledge about his mum always gave the impression that she was rarely spoken about - almost a taboo subject.He was an adult at the time of his grandmothers death - plenty of time for her to have given him more detail.Having said that,we do have a photo of his mum from his old memorabilia.
It has been quite exciting unravelling the history thus far - thanks to GR and the willingness of members to assist.
Shirley
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It would have been better to have continued on the previous thread, possibly by adding "still looking" to the header.
You reply on a thread by clicking on the purple Reply button just below the title of your thread.
To help prevent others from duplicating work already done by Rose, I have c&p'd the information from the other thread
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Samuel George Jeffery [only ever referred to as George] b 1886 Dorset Broadwinsor to a single mum
Elizabeth Jeffery b1870,Dorset.He was given the Jeffery surname.Elizabeth,we believe,"died" when George was "young"-no date of death known,but could have been before the 1891 census.George was raised by his maternal grandmother [Elizabeths mum],who by the time of his birth was married to a John Phillips.
In 1891,George and his then family were resident in Dorset,Somerset or Glamorgan.By 1901 George and Grandma Phillips were residents of Glamorgan - Porth/Pontypridd area.We know George worked his first jobs in Welsh rail yards and then mines around the Porth/Pontypridd area-he told us of his "adventues" prior to his death.
I cannot find him in either the 1891 or 1901 census,by looking for Samuel or George or by trying for other spellings of the Jeffery surname.Also looked under the Phillips surname,on the offchance that a census taker may have incorrectly written his surname as Phillips -but cannot find a Mary Phillips with a George on the same census entry.
Is it common for someone/a family to be missing from two census in a row ? Or would the probable cause be incomplete records at the online sites I have
checked ? George's uncle Walter Jeffery and family show up on the 1901 census-indicating that records do exist for neighbourhood where George spent his boyhood.
I would appreciate any comments/suggestions from the GR family.I am a resident of suburban Sydney,Australia.
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Portland Rose 12th May 2009 05:36 Request review
Transcribed as Sarah in 1901:
1901 Wales Census
about Sarah J Jeffrey
Name: Sarah J Jeffrey
Age in 1901: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Grandson
Where born: Broadwinsor, England
Civil Parish: Ystraddyfodwg
Ecclesiastical parish: Cymmer and Porth
Town: Porth
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Llanwonno
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 81
Household Members:
Name Age
John Phillips 59
Mercer Phillips 68
Sarah J Jeffrey 15
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Portland Rose 12th May 2009 05:40 Request review
Births Mar 1886
JEFFERY Samuel George Beaminster 5a 376
Rose
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Portland Rose 12th May 2009 05:42 Request review
1881 England Census
about Elizabeth Jeffery
Name: Elizabeth Jeffery
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Broadwinsor, Dorset, England
Civil Parish: Crewkerne
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address: Pipe House
Education:
Employment status
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Chard
Sub-registration district: Crewkerne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Phillips 37
Mary Phillips 48
Walter Jeffery 15
Elizabeth Jeffery 11
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Hi Shirle
Are you referring to this thread from May 12th:
http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1150757
I wasn't sure if you had seen it because I never heard back from you.
Rose
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Looking for comments from the panel of expert genealogists among the GR members.
I have been unable to locate my husbands grandfather and his immediate family [mother,grandmother,step grandfather] in any 1891 census database that I visit.At the time the areas of interest were Dorset/Somerset and Glamorgan.
A general question:Is it rare for a family to be missing from a census,and if so what are the most likely reasons eg.lost census taker documents ? omissions during transcription ? not at home on the night ?
Any suggestions as to other community documents/records that I might check ? I have their 1881 census details and,thanks to this Tips board,I have now seen the 1901 census entry which had grandfathers name as Sarah J instead of Samuel G,due to the writing quality of the census taker.
Grandfather:Samuel George Jeffery b1886 Dorset Broadwinsor.Mother [may have been deceased] Elizabeth Jeffery b1870 Dorest.Grandmother Mary/Mercy Phillips [nee Jeffery c1833] Step Grandfather,John Phillips c1844.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated
Shirley
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