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I'm struggling to even make a start on my grandfather's family as I don't want to jump to conclusions and chase the wrong Williams'. I have my grandparents marriage cert

11/10/1924

William Henry Williams, 35, ironworker, living in Flint,

father Henry Williams, (possibly - greengrocer)

Elizabeth Roberts, 31, living in Rhyl,

father Cornelius Roberts, labourer.

A census search for William Henry Williams with Henry Williams gives me a choice of families so that I don't know which to follow.

William Henry died 20/2/1931 according to a newspaper clipping and his gravestone says birth was 1889. A search on that gives some close matches but again which one?

I also have a partial swimming cert from the army which suggests William Henry was tested at Sollum (?) in June 1918. The date stamp says RWF.There's a number before his name - 240670, is there anyway I can use this to search for him?

I'd appreciate any advice otherwise I might have to flip a coin and adopt a family. Thanks for taking the time to read - hope it wasn't too garbled.

hi elaine only a possible
1901 census

Address High St
Civil Parish Overton
Rural District Overton
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Mary Overton
Parliamentary Borough or Division Overton
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Administrative County Flint
Householder 1
Name Alfred W Jones
Relation to Head of Family Boarder
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 17
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Apprentice Grocer
Employment Status
Where Born Denbighshire Chirk
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Albert Williams
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 9
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Flintshire Overton
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Ann Williams
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 41
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Cheshire Malpas
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Henry Williams
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 41
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Grocer Draper Shopkeeper
Employment Status
Where Born Flintshire Overton
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name Mabel Williams
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 11
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Flintshire Overton
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name Mary E Williams
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 7
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Flintshire Overton
Language
Infirmity
Householder 7
Name Thomas C Williams
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 16
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Flintshire Overton
Language
Infirmity
Householder 8
Name William H Williams
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 14
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Flintshire Overton
Language
Infirmity

RWF is his regiment: Royal Welsh Fusiliers, and 240670 is his service number you can look for him on ancestry medal cards, pension and service records

Roy

same family 1891
1891 census

Name Henry Williams
Age 32
Estimated Year of Birth 1859
Relationship to Head of Household ?
Occupation GROCER & DRAPER
Address High Street
District Overton, Ellesmere
Parish
Administrative County Shropshire
Birth Place
Birth County FLINTSHIRE
in house
henry head 32
ann wife 32
thomas e 6
william h 4
mable 2
annie roberts servant 16

Thanks Polly, think you're right, it's another possible to add to the list. The son's age isn't quite right but on the plus side, it's got the grocer link! And with an apprentice - they sound reasonably well off for 1901. I might just claim these ones and be done with it!

thanks Roy. Just had a quick look on Ancestry using that reg number. No obvious match, I've just trawled through a few pages but will try again later. And maybe I can find something about the Royal Welsh, so thanks for that too.

He does have an army pension record on Ancestry although it doesn't give any next of kin. His home address on joining is 10 (or 16) Castle St, and on demobilization it's 18 Castle St. He's an ironworker - galviniser for John Summers & Sons. He served in Egypt, joining the battalion at Sollum.

http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1114&path=W.Wi.Wil.98329

That's brilliant. Thanks Ozi - would have said so sooner but have been engrossed in papers. Might not be huge detail there but it's more than I've ever known about Grandad Williams. Wow!