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1861 Look up please

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Rose

Rose Report 2 Jun 2009 20:10

Is there some kind person that can do a search that I have found on A ...... y please.
James Mahoney 1854 born St Giles Middlesex. There are 2 listed but its H/H schedule 78 that I am interested in as there are 3 known children that I have found listed individually. Father
is Michael Mahoney but as there are a few Michael's listed thought it better to try this way.

Many many thanks
Rose

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Jun 2009 20:17

Not sure what you are looking for, is it this one?
Name: James Mahoney
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Micheal
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Giles
Town: London
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:22 Gt Wild Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles South
ED, institution, or vessel: St Giles and Bloomsbury United Parish Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 78
Household Members: Name Age
Micheal Mahoney 34 occ Market Porter b Ireland
Hannah Mahoney 33 b Ireland
James Mahoney 7
Hanorah Mahoney 3
Ellen Mahoney 1
Micheal Mahoney 1
Johanna Mahoney 5


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 169; Folio: 8; Page: 14; GSU roll: 542585.

Rose

Rose Report 2 Jun 2009 21:14

Thanks Shirley,
When I found the family on 1881 census it only gave father as M and wife Ann, they were living 26 Little Wild Street, St Giles. So mother Hannah shortened her name! I have been looking for a marriage of Michael and Ann, will have to go back to Freebmd see if I can now find marriage of Michael and Hannah?

In 1881 the family looked as though they were all living at home,26 Little Wild Street,St Giles.
I have Hannah born 1857 which could be Honorah. There was
not a Michael aged 1 but he could have died as there was a Michael born 1870. Have Johanna, James and Ellen all on 1881 census so surely it must be the same family?

They were in the workhouse!! Although Michael had work did that mean that he did not earn enough to keep his family, or could there have been another explanation. I do not know much about the workhouses.

Sorry it has taken me a time to get back to you but I had a visitor and they have only just left.

Many many thanks
Rose

Rose

Rose Report 2 Jun 2009 22:56

Cannot see a marriage of Michael and Hannah 1845-1860, maybe
they married in Ireland?

I cannot see an 1851 census of Michael Mahoney and spouse Hannah/Ann so I am back to square one!

Many thanks
Rose

Eileen

Eileen Report 3 Jun 2009 15:36

Hi, It might be this one
St Giles June 1854
Michael Mahony--Honora Macknery 1b/549
Cheers Eileen

Rose

Rose Report 3 Jun 2009 19:12

Hi Eileen,

Macknery sounds more Irish than the others I have seen on Freebmd
and it is possible as their first child was born Sept qtr 1854.

Do you know if Honorah is another name for Hannah, or the Irish way of spelling? as she is listed 1861 as Hannah and 1881 as Ann,,Its quite confusing! It will not tell me on the marriage certificate where they were born only the address where they are residing.

Many many thanks, its certainly a good possible.
Rose

Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Jun 2009 08:53

this could be Michael in 1851

1851 England Census
Name: Michael Mahoney
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: St Giles in The Fields
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles South
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 528
Household Members: Name Age
John Duggins 40
Mary Duggins 31
Abigail Duggins 14
John Duggins 8
Willm Duggins 1
Jeremiah Mahoney 36
**********************Michael Mahoney 24

Jeremiah is actually 30, not 36 - could be a brother?



Rose

Rose Report 4 Jun 2009 18:26

Hi Erin,
Thank you for pointing out Michael Mahoney was not in the workhouse.
I thought if I tried one of their children it might be an easier approach to get further back, which has proved ok so far.

I am trying to track Michael and his wife, as you will see from the thread she was Hannah in 1861 but Ann in 1881! I would like to find their marriage but could not see anything on Freebmd and I am struggling
on Ancestry as I do not have subs. Yes there are several Mahoneys and it is not clear which family I should trace. Michaels wife was born in Limerick abt 1827 but it is possible that they married in Ireland before
coming here.

I did not think Honarah was another spelling for Hannah although one of their children who is Hannah n 1881 is spelt Hanorah in 1861 so it must be down to bad handwriting from the enumerator?

Thank you Choccy for finding Michael in 1851 St Giles area, that may be a possible.

Any help in finding them would be very much appreciated.

Rose