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Tracing early passport records

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Betty

Betty Report 7 Jun 2009 12:06

Thanks for the information and ideas. Will make use of both. I'm sure when and if I sort out his life it will prove very interesting!

Thanks once again. Betty

Paul

Paul Report 7 Jun 2009 10:02

The National Archives have an article on passports:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/familyhistory/guide/migrantancestors/passports.htm
this might help
alternatively you could ask Anthony in the live web chat on this site

mgnv

mgnv Report 7 Jun 2009 07:28

Without actually knowing anything, my guess is the easiest route would be by sea to St Petersburg. Whether this was direct, or necessitated a change in a Baltic port, or if he went by train across N Germany and maybe finished off by boat, I wouldn't guess. As you no doubt know, there were two revolutions in 1917. In Feb, Kerensky's provisional government took over, and kicked the Tsar out, and then, in the October revolution, Lenin and his Bolsheviks kicked out Kerensky and the provisional government. By 1917, Russia was at war with Germany, but certainly one could travel from St Petersburg to the Russian territory of Finland, and from there to neutral Sweden without undue bother, I would guess. As a minor consequence (minor, unless you're Finnish) of the October revolution, Finland seceded from Russia, and became independent late in 1917.

Betty

Betty Report 6 Jun 2009 15:26

I have my grandfather's passport (issued 14 March 1913), which he used to go to Russia - and there are Russian stamps/visa marks on it. I gather he went there to help set up a factory for J&P Coats, but then had to escape because of the revolution. I have contacted Glasgow University who hold some archived material for Coats, but his name doesn't appear anywhere. Is there any way I can find out how he got to Russia, where he went to work and how he got back again? I have tried on a couple of web sites for passport applications, but none of them seem to fit dates around 1913 or they require details of how he went and I have no idea how he got there.
My grandfather was a bit of an adventurer (and a bit of a liar!!) but I do have the passport (albeit a bit battered) to prove he went and actually was in Russia.
Any help or ideas gratefully received.
Betty