Genealogy Chat

Richard Cooper on the 1841 census in Whit Lane, Pendleton, Salford. His name is at the start of the second page but if I'm not mistaken it is a continuation of the house at the bottom of the previous page. Thus he was living with Thomas and Mary Bl...????
Can anyone help with this surname?

Richard appears again in 1861 census, still in Whit Lane and Mary Bl....??, now a widow is living with him and his family. Her occupation is proprietress of .......... does it say horses?? Can anyone read the birth places? Richard is Lower Darwen and his children are Charlestown, but what about Ann and Mary?

At first I thought Thomas and Mary could be his parents-in-law, but today on bmd I found a Richard Cooper who married an Anne Collier in 1840. In the first census there is a Abraham Collier living with Richard and Ann so this seems more likely to have been her maiden name. Who might the Bl...??s have been?

I know I might end up sending off for the marriage certificate, but I was hoping someone might be able to throw some light on the situation first.

Thanks

1841, Blansby? Blomsby?

I no longer have access to full ancestry, the census copy I have was downloaded ages ago. How was the name transcribed on there? If I remember correctly it think it was Blomely. But can I check that's correct?

1861, still can't tell!
Blandey?
Really don't know!
They've transcribed it Benj Brinley.
For others:

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2905; Folio: 38; Page: 1; GSU roll: 543048.

In 1841 they transcibed it Blomeley.

Mary is propietress of houses in 1861.

Do you think the marriage certificate would help?
It would give me Ann's maiden name, her father's name and occupation and the witnesses. I suppose at least that way i'd know if she was Blomely, or whatever, or Collier.
What do you all think? Is there any way of getting this info from the records office without ordering the certificate? I've only been to the RO once and it was a waste of time as I didn't really know what to look for or how to look things up.

Proprietress of Houses, that sounds like she has money. Why would she be a lodger in someoneelses house?

Birthplaces in 1861 look like Harwood Lee for Ann and Harwoodley for Mary.

Just had a thought.

What if Mary Collier had two children, Abraham and Ann and then was widowed and remarried Thomas Blomeley. That would explain why they were living together. I just need to see if it's true.

Harwood Lee, Lancashire seems to be a suburb of Bolton.

Somersetgirl - Thomas aged 9 was actually James and you are right they did make a mess of the family.

Margaret - Although they all ended up in Salford, Richard Cooper was originally from Lower Darwen which is north of Harwood Lee. That would make sense.