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Looking for my Great Grandfather John W Billyard who was born in 1872 in Straton On Avon, Aston, Warwickshire.
Found the family on the 1881 census but somehow they have all disappeared 20 years later. There aren't any persons that match the exact year he was born, even did some double checking down at my local Library but no luck at all. Any suggestions please of where to look next? Thanks. Diane.

Here's the family in 1881 - for reference

1881 England Census
about John Billyard
Name: John Billyard
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Straton On Avon, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 1 CT 1h Edward St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 57
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Billyard 35
Jane Billyard 34
John Billyard 9
Martha Billyard 7
Mary A. Billyard 4
Annie Billyard 1
George Jotham 29

EDIT - all children born Birmingham, Warwickshire


Looks like the family may have split up - here's Mary Ann Billyard in 1891

1891 England Census
about Mary Ann Billyard
Name: Mary Ann Billyard
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Bordesley
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 79
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Sharpe 42
Elizabeth Sharpe 40
Mary Ann Billyard 14

Possibly a reason the family split up - this may be the death for John Billayard's mother

Deaths Jun 1884 (>99%)
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Billyard Jane 37 Aston 6d 158

What were the names and birthplaces of children?
1901 England Census
about William Billgard
Name: William Billgard
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: West Hartlepool
Ecclesiastical parish: Stranton All Saints
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 54
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 133
Household Members: Name Age
William Billgard 29
Caroline Billgard 27
Mary J Billgard 89
Caroline Billgard 6
Florrie Billgard 5
Lizzie Billgard 4
Maggie Billgard 2

Annie Billyard in 1891

1891 England Census
about Annie Billyard
Name: Annie Billyard
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Billyard 34
Sabrina Billyard 34
Sarah A Billyard 6
Alice Billyard 4
Charles Billyard 1
Annie Billyard 11
William Billyard 48



Both Annie and William are listed as visitors. Could Joseph Billyard be Henry Billyard's (Annie's father) brother and could William be another brother?

This appears to be the same family in 1911 as found by Jim Soton in 1901.

John William Billyard appears to have become Joseph William Billyard - however, there is a John William Billyard jnr in this household so I do think Joseph is actually John.

What do you think Jim and Somerset Girl?

HOUSEHOLD BILLYARD MEGGIE F 1900 11 Hartlepool Durham
HOUSEHOLD BILLYARD ANNIE F 1903 8 Hartlepool Durham
HOUSEHOLD BILLYARD CAROLINE F 1874 37 Hartlepool Durham
HOUSEHOLD BILLYARD CAROLINE JUNR F 1895 16 Hartlepool Durham
HOUSEHOLD BILLYARD ELIZABETH F 1898 13 Hartlepool Durham
HOUSEHOLD BILLYARD ELSIE MAY F 1911 3 MONTHS Hartlepool Durham
HOUSEHOLD BILLYARD ERNEST M 1910 1 Hartlepool Durham
HOUSEHOLD BILLYARD HARRY M 1905 6 Hartlepool Durham
HOUSEHOLD BILLYARD JOSEPH WILLIAM M 1872 39 Hartlepool Durham
HOUSEHOLD BILLYARD MARY JANE F 1893 18 Hartlepool Durham
HOUSEHOLD BILLYARD JUNR JOHN WILLIAM M 1907 4 Hartlepool Durham

I wonder if these births/deaths belong to the same family?

Births Jun 1901 (>99%)
Billyard William Hartlepool 10a 175

Deaths Sep 1901 (>99%)
Billyard William 0 Hartlepool 10a 109



Births Mar 1906 (>99%)
Billyard William Hartlepool 10a 206

Deaths Sep 1906 (>99%)
Billyard William 0 Hartlepool 10a 96

This could be Henry Billyard (John William's father) in 1851.

1851 England Census
about Henry Billiard
Name: Henry Billiard
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Ettelina
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Newark
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 8c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
James Billiard 28
Ettelina Billiard 27
John Billiard 7
Henry Billiard 6
William Billiard 4
Betsey Billiard 1
Robert Billiard 69
Richard Whiting 27


The William Billyard on this census could be the William visiting with Joseph in 1891

This looks to be the same family in 1861 and I think this confirms that the Henry, Joseph and William in the census posted on this thread were brothers

1861 England Census
about Joseph Billard
Name: Joseph Billard
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Hetty Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 102
Household Members: Name Age
James Billard 42
Hetty Anne Billard 39
John Billard 18
Harry Billard 16
William Billard 14
Betsey Billard 12
Joseph Billard 9
Martha Billard 6
Betsey Archer 18
Emma Archer 8
Sarah Archer 7


and again in 1871

1871 England Census
about Joseph Billiard
Name: Joseph Billiard
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Hettytenor
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Aston
Town: Deritend
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 182
Household Members: Name Age
James Billiard 53
Hettytenor Billiard 51
Harry Billiard 25
William Billiard 23
Joseph Billiard 19
Betsy Billiard 21
Martha Billiard 15
James Billiard 4
Henry Kearn 19
George Palmer 15

Possibly the marriage for John Billyard's parents

Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>BILLYARD Harry Birmingham 6d 209
>>>>>>>>Cross Jane Elizabeth Birmingham 6d 209
OLIVER Matilda Birmingham 6d 209
PAYNE Thomas Birmingham 6d 209


and possibly the marriage for Harry/Henry's parents

Marriages Mar 1842 (>99%)
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BAUM Mary Ann Leicester 15 112
BETTS George Leicester 15 112
>>>>>>>>>>>>Billiard James Leicester 15 112
Brooks Jane Leicester 15 112
HOLEYOAKE Edward Leicester 15 112
NIFFIN Sarah Ann Leicester 15 112
>>>>>>>>>>>>THORNE Kettylena Leicester 15 112

Thank you so much everybody for taking the time to search
for my family member John William Billyard. Apparently the name has been spelt wrongly on the 1901 census it was down as Billgard instead. I had tried different spellings but not this one, thanks to Jim Soton. And thank you Ninja Lady that was the information I had on the 1881 census but I just wanted to know where they lived in 1901.
I know they must have moved to Hartlepool because that is where my Grandmother was born in 1897.
I'm sorry it has taken me a while to reply but I have been in the middle of defrosting my fridge freezer, thank goodness it's sorted. Just like to say thanks again for your help.
Best regards from Diane.