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I don't see George or Edward in later censuses, so perhaps some tragic accident did befall them.

I'm impressed. Most times these family stories are way off base.

Rose

Gwyn and Sylvia - I'm lost for words!!!

Thank you so much for your help - I'd tried looking at the 1891 Census for Edith and family, when looking at a different branch but had no luck and kind of thought I'd come back to that one day.

I'm just very grateful for this information.

I feel like I'm a huge step forward towards finding out how much truth is in the legend. I've already found on other branches that legends have a grain of truth in them but only a grain!

BTW


whalers did sail from Whitby once upon a time



sylvia

Gwyn


that is just what I was thinking


although I guess he could have been a cabin boy .... age 12 or so



sylvia

and to prove this is the correct family, here they are in 1871, with the two brothers

1871 Census

Name: William Turner
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: St Mark
Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln
Town: Lincoln
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Lincoln
Sub-registration district: Lincoln Home

William Turner 34 Master Sweep
Elizabeth Turner 28
Georg William Turner 10
Edward Garfit Turner 5
Elizabeth Turner 2




sylvia

Edward would be very young to be at sea, if the family story is correct.

Gwyn

1871
Name: Elizabeth Turner
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: St Mark
Ecclesiastical parish: Lincoln
Town: Lincoln
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Lincoln
Sub-registration district: Lincoln Home
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 51

Household Members: Name Age
William Turner 34 ...master sweep
Elizabeth Turner 28
Georg William Turner 10
Edward Garfit Turner 5
Elizabeth Turner 2

As a starting point
1881

Name: Edith O. Turner
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincoln, England

Civil parish: Lincoln
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address: 10 St Marks Square

Registration district: Lincoln
Sub-registration district: Lincoln Home
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Turner 41 ...chimney sweep
Elizabeth Turner 38
Elizabeth Turner 12
Harriett C. Turner 7
Edith O. Turner 4
John R. Turner 1
Francis Jackson 28 ..visitor

Hi,

I have a family mystery to solve but I'm not sure the best way to go about it. My great-great-grandma Edith Onward Turner b. Jul/Aug/Sep 1877 in Lincoln, England was meant to have got her middle name from a sea faring vessel called "The Onward". The reason for this is that her older brothers George and Edward Turner were meant to have died on it or been lost at sea whilst working on the vessel. According to legend this vessel was a fishing vessel that sailed from the east coast possibly Grimsby, Hull or Whitby.

I don't know how to trace their death records or how to trace the vessel.

I have googled but have become bamboozled by various guides which all seem to contradict each other. Some saying the death records will be in with the GRO Index and others saying it will be in special indexes kept at Kew. As for tracing the vessel it seems like you need to know what type of vessel it was before you can search for it! I have googled "The Onward" and it came back to a report in the New York Times about a sunk/abandoned whaler in 1876. Although it gave no detail about the men who lost their lives or where it sailed from.

Any advice is appreciated, thanks.