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This is Rose's 1911 (well, one of them):

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First names JAMES
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Last names TAYLOR
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Birth Year 1883
County Middlesex
District Edmonton
Residence EAST TOTTENHAM
Census Reference RG14PN7318

There's 38 Taylors here, incl 2 James and 3 Williams and 1 Elvira.

HOUSEHOLD TAYLOR JAMES M 1849 62 Head
HOUSEHOLD TAYLOR ELVIRA F 1847 64 Wife
HOUSEHOLD TAYLOR JAMES M 1883 28 Son
HOUSEHOLD TAYLOR SAMUEL WILLIAM M 1886 25 Son
HOUSEHOLD TAYLOR GRACE NELLIE F 1889 22 Daughter
HOUSEHOLD TAYLOR FREDERICK GEORGE M 1891 20 Son

Yes, we have found a few possibles. If only we had asked these questions when the older family members were still alive.

Might be worth a look - occupation given as "errand boy port", if that makes sense!

1901 England Census

Name: James Taylor
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William H
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: West End, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: London

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Upper Holloway

Name Age
William H Taylor 49
Mary A Taylor 48
Martha Taylor 21
William Taylor 18
James Taylor 16
Corrie Taylor 13
Robert Taylor 11
Frederick Taylor 8

Jan

Rose, I think you might have found the answer. We worked out from his date of death and the age on his headstone that he was born in 1884. But there was always some uncertainty in the family as to his true age, as well as where he was actually born. So we have really only looked at the James Taylor's born in 1884. Soon after his marriage in 1912 he moved to Enfield Middlesex which comes within the Edmonton area. As far as we know he wasn't in WW1, although we don't know why as he was only in his early 30's. His fathers name was William and he was listed as a labourer on the marriage certificate in 1912. According to a family story James enlisted in the army as a boy and lied about his age to get in. So this may be where the uncertainty about his age started. I guess this would have been around 1898 or so. Also, he was supposed to have been in India with the army.
I'll start searching this new line and let you know how I get on.

Thank You

Marianne

In 1911 :

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD TAYLOR JAMES M 1883 28 Edmonton Middlesex
Ship Clerk

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD TAYLOR JAMES M 1885 26 Salford Lancashire
Shipping Clerk

Rose

What about service records? Was in he WW1?

Rose

What was his father's name and occupation?

Rose

The address he married from was 8 Webster Road, Bermondsey in 1912, which was the same address as my grandmother.
In the 1911 census only my grandmothers parents were listed at this address. His fathers occupation was labourer.

Marianne

what was address he married from ?
maybe he is there in 1911 census

Fathers occupation on marriage cert ?



June x

Hi Rose, No, he married in 1912. We think he was born in either Bermondsey, Surrey or possibly somewhere in Kent. Both the witnesses were from my grandmothers side. His occupation in 1912 was shipping clerk. Prior to that we don't know. His name was James Taylor, and there are a few possibilities in the 1911 census, but as we are uncertain of his birthplace we don't want to start paying for lots of birth certificates.

Marianne

Have you found him in 1891 and 1901 with his wife?

That should give his place of birth which would help track him down with his parents in the earlier censuses.

Jill

Was he married by the time of the 1911 census? Have you looked for him there to see where he was born?

Occupations and witnesses on the marriage cert. might help.

Can you list his details?

Rose

I have my grandfathers wedding and death certificates, which indicate he was born in 1884. Both he and his father have fairly common names making it difficult to identify them from census records. Is there any way of finding his actual date of birth from any other source? I would be really grateful for ANY help