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Gosh,
Thank you for the replies. The witnesses on the marriage cert were:
John Hurst (he ties in with the Graham side)
Emma Cecil
I will have a look at the Caroline which Jim found because those dates would fit in.
Thanks Astra I'll bear that marriage in mind.
Thanks again.
Sue
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Possible father for Caroline born 1903 from 1911 census
HOUSEHOLD JACOBS THOMAS M 1871 40 Stepney London
Looks like mother could be Mary Ann in which case this may be their marriage
Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)
Jacobs Thomas Stepney 1c 686
May Jessie Amelia Stepney 1c 686
Pratten Robert Henry Stepney 1c 686
Williams Mary Ann Stepney 1c 686
Caroline's birth
Births Dec 1904 (>99%)
JACOBS Caroline Emma Stepney 1c 355
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This is the family you found in 1901
1911
HOUSEHOLD JACOBS CAROLINE EMMA F 1899 12 Mile End Old Town London
HOUSEHOLD JACOBS ALOCE F 1876 35 Mile End Old Town London
HOUSEHOLD JACOBS THOMAS HENRY M 1901 10 Mile End Old Town London
HOUSEHOLD JACOBS WILLIAM JOHN M 1908 3 Mile End Old Town London
Father Thomas seems to be in an Institution
INSTITUTION JACOBS THOMAS M 1876 35 Mile End Old Town London
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1911???
JACOBS CAROLINE F 1903 8 Stepney London
HOUSEHOLD JACOBS CHARLES M 1907 4 Stepney London
HOUSEHOLD JACOBS ESTHER F 1907 4 Stepney London
HOUSEHOLD JACOBS GEORGE M 1909 2 Stepney London
HOUSEHOLD JACOBS JOHN M 1897 14 Stepney London
HOUSEHOLD JACOBS MARY ANN F 1899 12 Stepney London
HOUSEHOLD JACOBS MARYANN F 1873 38 Stepney London
HOUSEHOLD JACOBS THOMAS M 1871 40 Stepney London
HOUSEHOLD JACOBS LEONARD WILLIAMS M 1896 15 Stepney London
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Who was the informant on the death certificate? You have to remember that the information is only ever as good as the knowledge of the informant. Age at death can be way out depending on who is giving the information.
Who were the witnesses at Caroline's Wedding. Were they relatives. Their names may help locate her more positively.
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I have the marriage cert of:
Edward Walter Graham aged 23 (he's sorted)
and
Caroline Jacobs aged 22 father Thomas Jacobs - labourer
25th Dec 1925 at Parish Church of Stepney.
Her death in 1945 states her age as 43.
I have ordered two certificates for Caroline Jacobs:
Caroline Elizabeth Jacobs b. Q1 1900 in Bethnal Gn (wrong)
Caroline Emma Jacobs b. Q1 1899 in MEOT father Thomas Jacobs - window cleaner, mother Alice formerly Martin.
AFAIK Thomas Jacobs married Alice Horton b. Burton on Trent not Martin.
I have trawled through births of a Caroline Jacobs which would tie in approximately with given ages on marriage and death and have come completely unstuck.
1901 census:
1901 England Census about Caroline Jacobs
Name: Caroline Jacobs
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, London, England
Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Stepney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End, Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Jacobs 25
Alice Jacobs 25 b. Burton on Trent
Caroline Jacobs 2
Thomas Jacobs 1 month
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 336; Folio: 8; Page: 7.
1911 census
Alice aged 35 Burton on Trent
Caroline Emma aged 12 MEOT
Thomas aged 10 MEOT
William John aged 3 Stepney.
So my confusion relates to:
If I have the correct Caroline (Emma) Jacobs when she was married she should have been 24 yrs 11 mths not 22 as stated.
On her death she should have been 45/46 not 43 as stated.
I would be so grateful for any thoughts on this as I could quite happily cry.
Thanks
Sue
Edit: I have to go offline for a couple of hours so please bear with me for replies to any questions/answers, thanks.
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