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GranOfOzRubySlippers

GranOfOzRubySlippers Report 20 Aug 2009 05:50

Eileen what great news for you.

I wonder if the 11 could have been just 1 (one) and put in incorrectly? Does the Death Certificate state 11 th or 1 st. It is worth a look. Also the 6 th or 16 th cold be the date of internment. I have seen mistakes like this before. I have one ancestor who died in 1848 but his headstone states 1847. So he was buried a year before he died poor fella.

Gail

Eileen

Eileen Report 19 Aug 2009 12:45

Bingo !! I've just heard back from Woodbury Park Cemetary in T. Wells and it appears my Gt Grandfather is buried there but with no 'memorial'. I have to confirm with them that it's the right John Smith as they said he was buried 6th June which is BEFORE he'd died 11th June !!
The site is run by The Friends of Woodbury Park Cemetary and they are building up a portfolio of info on all the people buried there to give a picture of Victorian life in T. Wells at the time. It all sounds very interesting and gives importance to my John Smith who seems to have died in oblivion ....

Eileen

Eileen Report 19 Aug 2009 08:33

You have all been so helpful. I couldn't find my ancestor on the Deceased on Line site but I somehow followed links that led me to another likely Cemetary in Tunbridge Wells so I've contacted them for a search.
My John Smith has been a huge brick wall in my direct family tree as I've no idea where he was born so can't pin him down in any Census records either. It's as if he didn't exist until he married in Oct 1871[ after the census was taken] at age 32 [ he's a bachelor on his marrigar cert] and then died before the next census . No consideration for we amateur genealogists !!
Anyway - I plod along Sherlock Holmes - like ...... thank you all.

GranOfOzRubySlippers

GranOfOzRubySlippers Report 19 Aug 2009 06:12

In Australia the Undertaker is given the death certificate to finish off, eg internment. Also he puts in parents names and occupations, date of marriage, age at marriage, where married, if born in the country or overseas and how long in country. Also any living or deceased children names and ages.

From what I can gather the amount of information is the same as the Scottish certificates. From 1857 onwards there is a massive amount of information on any Certificate. A birth will also give the names and ages of any children born before. Also I have a couple of birth certificates that state the parents were born in Lancashire and one for Scotland.

Our Early Church Records only have scarce information on them.

I do not want to make you envious, but it is just so helpful, when we only have a few very early census/ muster documents available. So, I am envious of your census, as it does make it easier to trace my OH's family in the UK.

Gail

Eileen

Eileen Report 18 Aug 2009 14:55

Oh that my family were Australians !! Thanks for the help - I will try the site.

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 18 Aug 2009 11:41

Eileen...Take a look here, it has many burials for Tunbridge Wells.

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch



Nicky

GranOfOzRubySlippers

GranOfOzRubySlippers Report 18 Aug 2009 11:15

Eileen, I cannot help you I am sorry. I have only ordered a couple of Death Certificates from England, and was shocked at the lack of detail on them.

The Death Certificates in Australia also state the date and where the person was buried. Do the latter Death Certificates in England give more information than the earlier ones?

Gail

Eileen

Eileen Report 18 Aug 2009 09:51

I have recently obtained the death cert. for my Gt Grandfather John Smith which shows he died in The Infirmary Tunbridge Wells in 1880. His wife had died the year before and is buried in an unmarked grave in the Borough Cemetary. They have kindly done a search for me and he is not buried with his wife and they have no record of him there.
Does anyone have any info about any other cemetaries in the area where he might be - or I suppose there's the macabre possibilty of his body being used for medical research as he didn't seem to have any relatives that I know of !! Both he and his wife had TB.His 2 young children went to an Orphanage in Greenwich.