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Brenda

Brenda Report 20 Aug 2009 17:02

Hi J M W and Gwen
Thanks for that . Gwen i think you could be right as although my great grand mother did not marry my grand mothers father
when my grandmother married my grand father she had her mothers maiden name and had her fathers name in the fathers box.
Today i have sent for the later birth certificate just to find out if it was reregisterd in her fathers name as its the only way to find out for definite
I will reply with the out come either way.
Regards Brenda

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 20 Aug 2009 14:35

Presumably the named man was the child's father and his name was given to the registrar by the child's mother when asked.
Unless he was there in person, an unmarried man's name could not be recorded on the certificate, so it's actually a bonus that the registrar had to make the correction.
If the parents later married, the child would be re registered and her father's name shown....and so would be recorded under his name on that index.
Until relatively recently, there was no Surname box on a birth certificate, it was implied by the father's name being recorded there.

Gwyn

JMW

JMW Report 20 Aug 2009 13:46

This is called a numbered error and is an error that can be corrected BEFORE the Registrar has signed the registration as complete. After the Registrar has signed the entry, corrections can only be made by a formal correction which neccesitates a note in the margin giving an explanation

Brenda

Brenda Report 19 Aug 2009 22:18

Thanks mgnv
I might do that failing that i still might send for the later birth certificate just out of curiosity as it is to much of a coincedence with the fathers name being scrached out in the begining
Regards Brenda

mgnv

mgnv Report 19 Aug 2009 22:08

I think those #s are standard correction #s. Why not phone/email the GRO or local office where you got it from and ask them what the #s mean.

Brenda

Brenda Report 19 Aug 2009 19:50

Thanks Kate
Its just strange that her fathers full name is written in the right place on the birth certificate then it has a line through as if it shouldnt be there
like you say the numbers could have been the ammount of mistakes made .
BUT PUTTING IN THE FATHERS NAME WAS A MISTAKE?
Regards Brenda

Kate

Kate Report 19 Aug 2009 19:29

The numbers are probably the registrar's notes to say that there was a spelling mistake or error recording the names etc which the registrar corrected. I've got a death certificate for a woman called Susannah but her name is written "Susanah" and then the "n" was added as a correction. The number 4 is above the extra "n" and at the end of the certificate, after the name of the registrar is the note 4, initialled "R.B". The registrar was named Richard Blundell so I think he would have been adding a note to the record to say that he'd made an error.

I can only think that the number would refer to the 4th correction made that month or quarter etc.

Brenda

Brenda Report 19 Aug 2009 17:53

Hi joan
The mothers name is the same as my grandmothers
my grandmother is on the 1891 census she is with with her uncle her mothers brother
as it looks like my great grand mother was working in a guest house in the 1891 census
i might send for the other certificate just to find out what it has for the mother and father
Regards Brenda

Joan

Joan Report 19 Aug 2009 17:33

Hi Brenda
The one thing that springs to mind when reading your thread is...........is it possible that the birth registered in 1889 a different one to the birth registered in 1892 ? Could they be two different children ?
On the certificate of 1889 are the parents names different but you think they are true ?
Have you found your grandma on the 1891 census ?
Hoping someone can help
Joan

Brenda

Brenda Report 19 Aug 2009 17:25

I sent for a copy of my grandmothers birth certifcate1889 when i recevied it, it had her fathers name written in but it is crossed out with the number 21 next to it it also has something crossed out where the name and maiden name of her mother with the number 22 next to it, Her mother did not marry my grandmothers
father does any body what the numbers mean
Also could my grandmother have been registered again with her fathers name as i have found her name1892 with his name
as her surname
but when she married my grandfather she was still with her mothers maiden name but it has her fathers name on the marriage certificate
Regards Brenda