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I have a relative HAGAR HASTE listed on the 1851 census as being 9 months old, she is not listed on the 1861 census.
I have searched through all the death records from 1851 - 1861 without finding her.
What do you think has happened to her? How can I find out?
Suggestions please.
Thanks, Karen

1851 just for info

Name: Hagar Haste
Age: 9 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robt
Mother's Name: Bathsheba
Gender: Female
Where born: Hollesley, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Hollesley
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Woodbridge
Sub-registration district: Carlford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 119
Household Members: Name Age
Robt Haste 47
Bathsheba Haste 47
Wm Haste 15
Hagar Haste 9 Mo



Have you found the rest of the family in 1861?

HI

I know it says 9 months but wonder if it should be 9yrs

Census
about Hagar Haste
Name: Hagar Haste
Age: 9 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robt
Mother's Name: Bathsheba
Gender: Female
Where born: Hollesley, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Hollesley
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Woodbridge
Sub-registration district: Carlford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 119
Household Members: Name Age
Robt Haste 47
Bathsheba Haste 47
Wm Haste 15
Hagar Haste 9 Mo


if it is this could be the marriage and birth

FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Hagar Haste
Name: Hagar Haste
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 524

Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Hagard Haste
Name: Hagard Haste
Year of Registration: 1842
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Woodbridge
County: Suffolk
Volume: 12
Page: 498

the marriage is to a george jolly

Census
about Hagar Jolly
Name: Hagar Jolly
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Hollesley, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 37 Rowsell St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Jolly 41
Hagar Jolly 39
Samuel B. Jolly 19
George W. Jolly 14
William J. Jolly 11
Patience B. Jolly 1
Grace H. Jolly 1
Sarah S. Saunders 72
George Rutland 65

'parents are on 1861...but not with children...I am wondering if these are perhaps grandparents ? given age of mother?

no birth on freebmd for 'Hagar'

1881

William HASTE Head M Male 46 Hollesley, Suffolk, England Cab Proprietor
Mary HASTE Wife M Female 49 Abbot Skertwell, Devon, England
Elizabeth J. HASTE Dau U Female 15 St James, Middlesex, England
Robert HASTE Father M Male 77 Hollesley, Suffolk, England Labourer
Bethsheba HASTE Mother M Female 77 Bennall, Suffolk, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 1 Canton St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341113
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0507 / 112
Page Number 27

BATHSHEBA HASTE Pedigree
Female Family


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Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: ABRAHAM DELA ROACH Family
Marriage: 01 JUL 1776 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

You have probably seen this:

1861 England Census

Name: Bathsheba Haste
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Benhall, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Hollesley
County/Island: Suffolk

Registration district: Woodbridge
Sub-registration district: Woodbridge and Wilford

Name Age
Robert Haste 59
Bathsheba Haste 59

1861 poss

Name: Agar Jolly
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
William Haste 25
Mary Haste 29
Robert Haste 5
George Haste 1 6 Mo
George Jolly 22
Agar Jolly 19
Angelina Cooper 3 Mo

Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Hagar Jolly
Name: Hagar Jolly
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 58
District: Poplar (To 1965)
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 421

well found glitter , looks like it should have been 9yrs and she married the george jolly.

I wonder if Rose is right? Might just have provided wrong name. To my amazement there are these Hagr Births in Suffolk!

Births Mar 1849
Turner Hagar Thingoe 13 525
Births Mar 1850
Catchpole Hagar Depwade 13 32
Births Jun 1850
Sargent Hagar Thingoe 13 535
Births Dec 1850
Gaffer Hagar Hartismere 13 433
Wright Hagar Harriet Thetford 13 317

Jan

jan

she is listed as hagard haste in birth index , married george jolly .she looks to be living with brother william and husband in 1861 census

the marriage cert details will show the parents.

I think this is a case of following through the family members on later census would have found Hagar living with her brother.

Then it would have been simple to work out the age and marriage

Thank you everyone for all your help. You are all obviously experts at this, you managed to solve my problem in a matter of minutes when I've been looking for the past half hour.

Thanks again.
Karen

If this is indeed Hagar that married George Jolly , a nice lot of little Jollys by 1881 :)

1881 England Census
about Hagar Jolly
Name: Hagar Jolly
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Hollesley, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 37 Rowsell St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Jolly 41
Hagar Jolly 39
Samuel B. Jolly 19
George W. Jolly 14
William J. Jolly 11
Patience B. Jolly 1
Grace H. Jolly 1
Sarah S. Saunders 72
George Rutland 65