Genealogy Chat

Hi Jim, it seems almost certain that is my Joseph - thinking his father Edward died & his mother Louisa married Emmanuel Oakley, but just wanted to make sure as I have found 4 possible marriages for an Edward Bate in Dudley - also found a birth for Joseph Oakley (1853) which confused me further.
Thanks for that though as I couldn't find him in 1861.

Maggie

I dont know which is your Joseph but this one has father Edward
1891
Joseph Bate Louisa abt 1853 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Stepson Helmington Row
1871
Joseph Oakley Emmanuel,
Louisa abt 1853 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Son Brancepeth, Durham
1861
Joseph Oakeley Emmauel,
Louisa abt 1852 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Son Brancepeth, Durham
1851
Lousia Bate Edward abt 1831 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Wife Dudley, Worcestershire
marriage
Louisa Powell 1850 Dudley (To 1912) Staffordshire, Worcestershire
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Louisa Bate 1857 Dudley (To 1912) Staffordshire, Worcestershire
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EDWD. BATE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 26 MAR 1826 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

Thanks Nicky & insomnia, I'll do that - I can't find either Edward or Joseph on the 1861 or 1871 census, and think Edward may have died in 1857 anyway.

Thanks insomnia...wasn`t sure it was the right office.....agree local offices are often better, and far more helpful than the GRO...


Nicky

The address you have given is for Warwickshire Record Office which is a document archive, the local register office should be:

Dudley District Register Office
Priory Hall, Priory Park, Priory Road, Dudley, West Midlands DY1 4EU

I always try and order certificates through the local register office where possible as you can sometimes find a helpful person who can do quick checks for you. They are also usually quicker than the GRO and some will give you copies of the original document with original signatures. Certificates from the GRO are transcribed copies only.

If you ask for a reference check when applying from GRO online stating father must be Edward, they will only charge you £3.00 or £4.00 if that is not the fathers name, or you could always try the local register office for Dudley/Midlands and phone them...if you get a helpful member of staff they may do the check for you.

Have you found the other Joseph Bate on the census to check that his father isn`t Edward also?

EDIT.... think this maybe the local office you want...if not they will be able to point you in right direction.

Warwickshire Records Office, Priory Park, Cape Road, Warwick, CV34 4JS.
phone: 01926 738959. fax: 01926 738969.




Nicky

Hi, it's me again!

I'm really struggling with my paternal grandmothers branch of the family & will need to send for a birth certificate of her father. BUT there are 2 Joseph Bate of Dudley listed together in the same quarter of 1852. I know his father's name was Edward - but will I still have to send for both certs. or is there a way somehow to request the one I want?
Thank you