Genealogy Chat

Hi Everyone,
Im in a right mess & the more I look at it the less I understand it. Please,please.please could some kind person put me out of my misery!!!!

Looking up Church family on 1861 census, all was going well but now ive got conflicting information & im very confused.
BENJAMIN JOHN CHURCH Age 36 Coal Porter
ANN CHURCH (Wife) Age 33
SARAH ANN CHURCH (Dau) Age 13
FRANCIS R CHURCH (Son) Age 9 Scholar
JAMES R (Son) Scholar
living at 13/14 Clarener st (Which could be Clarence Pl), Gravesend, Kent

Thats what I was expecting to find.
Also found record for :-
ANN PRIESTLEY (Head) Age 30 from Kensington,Middlesex
CHARLES E 9 MONTHS? (SON)
CHRISTMAS CHURCH Age 3 (SON)
CHARLES(son) Age 8 Scholar
MARY A?E (Niece) Age 1/2?
AMELIA Age 6m? (dau)
SARAH WEBSTER? visitor Age 35
EDWARD ? Servant? Age 23 Sweep
living at 14 clarener st (Clarence Pl)

The reason im confused is my records show Ann Priesley married Benjamin John Church at st peter & st paul, milton next gravesend, kent on 5 apr 1847. Fathers on marriage certificate are Benjamin Church & Thomas Priesley both Chimny Sweeps.

So what is the record under Ann Priestley at the same address? & who are the other people on that record?

Please help. Was it a census fiddle or something?????

Jenny x

I do have a genes member who helps me & she has all the children listed for ann Priesley/Priestley.

Sarah Ann1848,
Benjamins Francis 1849 ,
Francis Richard 1852,
James Robert 1855,
Christmas Richard 1858,
Charles Gilbert 1860,
Elizabeth Amelia1863,
Frances 1863,
Catherine 1866,
Mary Ann1869.

Jenny x

Hi Jenny

Just had a look at the 1861 census and it shows Ann Priestley is a widow. She could possibly be a sister in law to Ann Church.

Did Ann who married Benjamin have any brothers? Is so try and find a marriage.

I would do more but I'm in work and my lunch break is just about to come to an end, I'll bookmark your thread and if you've had no other responses I will try and help some more.

kind regards

Ruth

Dont know will have to look up her father Thomas & see. Need to do lunch for current family members so have to look a bit later too.
Thanks for possibility though.
Jenny x

Hi Jenny

Sorry forgot to say that I think that you have mixed up the 2 families

CHARLES E 9 MONTHS? (SON)
CHRISTMAS CHURCH Age 3 (SON)

these 2 come before Ann Priestley at the top of the page so belong to the Church family in the previous household.

regards

Ruth

Double-check the image again.

I agree it's probably Clarence Street by the way.

On the first page - 13 Clarence Street is uninhabited - there's a 1 in the uninhabited column - bit squished but it's there. So the family live at 14 Clarence Street.

Benjamin and Anne had the following children:
Sarah, Francis, James, Christmas and Charles.

Also at 14 Clarence Street and in a separate household are:
Ann Priestley (wid) with children - Charles, Mary and Amelia and niece Mary. Plus two visitors.

Does that help?

It's possible that Ann Church (nee Priestley) was related to Mr Priestley (husband of Ann Priestley nee ______).

Could be worth looking for marriage of a Mr Priestley and Ann ____ in FreeBMD in approx 1850? Could be worth looking for male Priestley deaths in between 1858/59 and 1861. Might all make a bit more sense then.

Jill

This is your family, 2 more children next page:
1861 census
13/14 Clarence St., Milton, Gravesend, Kent
Benjamin Church, head, 36, coal porter, born St. Pancras
Ann, wife, 33, born Gravesend
Sarah Ann, dau, 13, born "
Francis R., son, 9, born "
James R., son, 6, born "
Christmas, son, 3, born "
Charles G., son, 9 months, born "

Thanks everyone. Just need to heck out Ann Church nee Priesley/Priestly had a sister in law living there who was married to one of her brothers now!

Thanks again everyone.

just very confusing if she was born priesley & married a Church but also her brother married an Ann ? who became Ann Priestley.

Thanks again

Jenny x