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The marriage cert will also give his fathers occupation which will help you locate them

thanks for all your time and effort i am afraid my grandaughter who is staying weith us was a bit unwell last night so i dindnt get back to you. she is fine today -. i am confused with these births and marriages.
if alice barlow was born 1838 and married john barlow in 1854 then she would just have been 16 when she married and 40 when she had george ..that sounds right but george was born in 1878 his age is correct on the 1901/1911 census so on the 1881 census he couldnt have been 13 years !!! he could have been 3 years !
i will have to see if my friend wants to send off for georges marriage cert although that will only give his age and fathers name but i suppose that will help with a birth cert but so many george rowleys.my friend lives in usa so i had hoped i could try and sort it for her.
thanks for your help it is much apreciated and if anyone else wants to view their thoughts on this one i would be most grateful
linda

matching birth for that Alice??

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1838

BARLOW Alice Redfern Leek

is this the marriage of your Alice?

taffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1854

ROWLEY John
BARLOW Alice Tunstall, Christ Church

how can this not be the same?
1891
Alice Rowley abt 1842 Long Pore, Staffordshire, England Head Wolstanton, Staffordshire
1881
Alice Rowley John abt 1838 Longport, Staffordshire, England Wife Wolstanton, Staffordshire

according to staffordshire bmd site there are a few George Rowley born inTunstall in the approximate time scale

1867, 1871, 1878 - take your pick!!

I would guess that he is th 1867 one as all the family except Lizzie were born in Tunstall which could mean George is printed out of order

edit -I suppose the 1867 could be the George in your 1891 census as William should appear on the 1881 & Alic'es age is quite a few years out

sorry seem to be rambling now but hope you understand what I mean

thanks margaret i had hoped that the image might have said 13 months but then it wold have said 1 year !! doesnt look like its the same family but i had my hopes up
thanks for looking linda

1881 census
1 Wellington St., Wolstanton, Staffordshire
John Rowley, head, 53, general labourer, born Staffs, Tunstall
Alice, wife, 43, born Staffs, Longport
John, son, 20, (something?) miner (unemployed), born Tunstall
Eliza, dau, 18, potter's assistant, born "
Alice, dau, 16, potter's assistant, born "
Edwin, son, 15, potter's assistant, born "
Louise , dau, 12, born "
Emma, dau, 10, born "
Lizzie, dau, 8, born Burslem
George, son, 13, born Tunstall
Selina Sherratt, visitor, 19, potter's assistant, born Burslem

Wonder why George is out of order here? Could it be he's 13 months? It doesn't say that.

thanks joan i have tried family search with no luck but will try find my past
cheers linda

sorry to be a nuisance but ancestry keeps crashing on me tonight i dont know why. i have found this Rowley family on the 1891 census and i am trying to find them on the 1881.
i have found a family with a mother alice Rowley and son george Rowley along with other siblings but the birthdate for george is about 10 years out and i cant view the image
also on this 1891 census it says alice has two sons george and william but when you look at william his last name is Ray not Rowley so he is the son of the lodger
thanks for any help

1891 England Census
about Alice Rowley
Name: Alice Rowley
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Long Pore, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Wolstanton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Tunstall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub-registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
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Household Members: Name Age
Alice Rowley 49
George Rowley 13
William Ray 52
William Rowley 14


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Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2158; Folio 87; Page 5; GSU roll: 6097268.