Genealogy Chat

What a pity English, Irish and Scottish Certs are not the same.

On my Grandmother's Irish MC, it just says F for age instead of giving her age, and doesn't say who her mother was.

On her English DC, it doesnt give her MS, or say who her parents were, we should be thinking about the family members who will follow us and try and get these certs to contain this basic info, as the Scottish certs do.

What do you think ??.

Regards
Sandra

What a pity Joan that DADE method wasnt adopted, it would make things so much easier.

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Sandra

I had never heard of this DADE method Joan, but lots of my family are from Yorkshire,, so I hope to come across it, thanks for that bit of info, its something new learned, they say everyday is a school day.

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Sandra

Hope this isn't breaking copyright laws - but here is what wikipedia says about Rev Dade ;-) - Steve.
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Dade and Barrington Registers
Dade and Barrington Registers are detailed registers that contain more information than standard baptism and burial registers as required by George Rose’s 1812 Act.

Dade Registers are named after Rev. William Dade, a Yorkshire clergyman (b.1740) who went to St. John's College, Cambridge. From 1763 until his death in 1790, he was curate, vicar and rector of five parishes in York and two in the East Riding of Yorkshire.

Dade was far ahead of his time in seeing the value of including as much information on individuals in the parish register as possible. In 1777 Archbishop William Markham decided that dade's scheme should be introduced throughout his diocese. The baptismal registers were to include child's name, seniority (eg. first son), father's name, profession, place of abode and descent (ie names, professions and places of abode of the father's parents), similar information about the mother, and mother's parents, the infant's date of birth and baptism. Registers of this period are a gold-mine for genealogists, but the scheme was so much work for the parish priests that it did not last long.

In 1770 Dade wrote in the parish register of St. Helen's, York: "This scheme if properly put in execution will afford much clearer intelligence to the researches of posterity than the imperfect method hitherto generally pursued." His influence spread and the term Dade register has come to describe any parish registers that include more detail than expected for the time.

The application of this system was somewhat haphazard and many clergymen, particularly in more populated areas, resented the extra work involved in making these lengthy entries. The thought of duplicating them for the Bishop’s Transcripts put many of them off and some refused to follow the new rules. Several letters of complaint were printed in the York newspapers of the time, and the scheme suffered when the Archbishop indicated there was no punishment for vicars who failed to comply.

The Borthwick Institute for Archives recommends that researchers looking at Yorkshire parishes between 1770 and 1812 should check both sources.

Thanks Steve, Rev. Dade sounds a lovely man, I will look at the Bishops Transcripts for Durham to see if they use the method, just such a pity it never became law, thanks again.

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Sandra