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Are they one of the same!!!

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Chris from Kent

Chris from Kent Report 27 Sep 2009 19:03

Thanks Joneses
They were the only children to have two baptisms. But the Rotherhithe address is the same address that their son William A j gives for the baptism of some of his children around the same time!

Chris from Kent

Chris from Kent Report 27 Sep 2009 18:27

Thanks people yes they did come from Deptford and you have the right family.
But what do you think about the baptism records I have found?

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 27 Sep 2009 17:50

hi is this the family
1901 census

Address 234 Church Street
Civil Parish St Nicholas Deptford
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Nicholas
Parliamentary Borough or Division Greenwich
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Greenwich
Administrative County London
Householder 1
Name Edward Spain
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 11
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Kent Deptford
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Frances Spain
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 41
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born London Hackney
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Harry Spain
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 14
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Van Virgs
Employment Status
Where Born Kent Deptford
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Nellie Spain
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 9
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Kent Deptford
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name Rosina Spain
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 16
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Servent Domestic
Employment Status
Where Born Kent Deptford
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name William Spain
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 47
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation General Labourer
Employment Status
Where Born London Hackney
Language
Infirmity


1891 census

Name William Spain
Age 37
Estimated Year of Birth 1854
Relationship to Head of Household HEAD
Occupation DOCK LABOURER
Address 20 Saint Pauls Terrace
District Greenwich, St. Paul Deptford
Parish
Administrative County London
Birth Place Deptford
Birth County KENT
in house
william head 37
frances wife 32
william 15
sidney 9
rose 6
henry 4
edward 1
eleanor 4 months

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Sep 2009 17:47

1881

William SPAIN Head M Male 46 Woodnesbro., Kent, England Labourer
Charlotte SPAIN Wife M Female 37 Kingstone, Kent, England
William SPAIN Son Male 16 Sandwich, Kent, England Labourer
Emily SPAIN Daur Female 14 Sandwich, Kent, England Servant
Charles SPAIN Son Male 12 Sandwich, Kent, England Scholar
Jane SPAIN Daur Female 10 Sandwich, Kent, England Scholar
Charlotte SPAIN Daur Female 4 Sandwich, Kent, England
Alfred SPAIN Son Male 2 Sandwich, Kent, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Butts
Census Place Sandwich St Mary, Kent, England
Family History Library Film 1341236
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0994 / 23
Page Number 12

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Sep 2009 17:44

1881

Elizabeth SPAIN Head W Female 53 Folkestone, Kent, England Mangler
Sarah SPAIN Daur U Female 25 Rotherithe, Surrey, England Machinist
Clara SPAIN Daur U Female 20 Deptford, Kent, England Machinist
Henry J. SPAIN Son Male 16 Deptford, Kent, England Van Boy
Chares F. SPAIN Son Male 14 Deptford, Kent, England Signal Lad (Oth)
Joseph SPAIN Son Male 12 Deptford, Kent, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 59 Napier St
Census Place Deptford St Paul, Kent, England
Family History Library Film 1341164
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0704 / 45
Page Number 27

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Sep 2009 17:43

1881 - just for reference here

William SPAIN Head M Male 27 Folkestone, Kent, England General Labourer
Frances SPAIN Wife M Female 22 Deptford, Kent, England
William SPAIN Son U Male 5 Deptford, Kent, England Scholar
Thomas SPAIN Son Male 1 Deptford, Kent, England
Matilda SPAIN Visitor W Female 22 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Seamstress
Matilda SPAIN Visitor Female 5 Newington, Surrey, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 3 Mary Anns Buildings
Census Place Deptford St Paul, Kent, England
Family History Library Film 1341164
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0702 / 62
Page Number 12

Chris from Kent

Chris from Kent Report 27 Sep 2009 17:18

Has anyone any ideas for me on this dilemma
I have found Charles Henry Spain
Parents William & Frances Spain (plus loads of other children born in Deptford)
Charles Henry born at 2 Bensmore Street, Deptford bpt 3 Feb 1878 St Nicholas Deptford also
Charles Henry born 27 L'Queen St, Rotherhithe bpt 13 Jan 1878
both born 16 Dec 1877
also a brother I have been looking for William Alfred Joseph Spain born in Deptford. I cannot find him but his dates tie up with Alfred Joseph bpt Rotherhithe with Charles Henry
Love to hear what you think
Thanks
Chris