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would like to know who cecil lymer father was cecil was born 1905

You will either need to buy his birth or marriage certificate or look him up on the 1911 census and hope that he is living with his parents. Where was he born?

Sam x

1911
LYMER CECIL M 1905 6 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LYMER ADA F 1910 9 MONTHS Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LYMER ELLEN F 1896 15 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LYMER JOSEPH M 1854 57 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LYMER JOSEPH M 1893 18 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LYMER MARTHA F 1870 41 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LYMER SYDNEY M 1900 11 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire
HOUSEHOLD LYMER THOMAS M 1896 15 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire

1901 England Census
about Joseph Lymer
Name: Joseph Lymer
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Leigh, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Hanley
Ecclesiastical parish: Hope Holy Trinity
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stoke upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Shelton
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 254
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Lymer 46
Martha Lymer 32
Joseph Lymer 7
Emily Lymer 5
Thomas Lymer 4
Sydney Lymer 5 months

than right one just like now the grand parents are please thank you

1861 England Census
about Joseph Lymer
Name: Joseph Lymer
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Stone, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Leigh
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Uttoxeter
Sub-registration district: Uttoxeter
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Lymer 30
Harriet Lymer 38
William Lymer 8
Joseph Lymer 7
Henry Lymer 5
Thomas Lymer 3
Sarah Lymer 2

1841 England Census
about Wm Lymer
Name: Wm Lymer
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Stone
Hundred: South Pirehill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Stone
Sub-registration district: Stone
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Wm Lymer 40
Sarah Lymer 35
Mania Lymer 12
Joseph Lymer 11
Mary Lymer 8
Cate Lymer 7
Edmond Lymer 5
Jane Lymer 3
Christanna Lymer 1

so who was cecil lymer grand dad then thank you

Hi Maxine.

Cecil's father was Joseph (born 1854) married to Martha.

Cecil's grandfather was also a Joseph (born c1831) married to Harriet.

Cecil's gt. grandfather was William (born c1801) married to Sarah.


If you look at the year of the census, it helps you to work it out.
Does that help?

thank you it is a great help thank you do you no children birthday please

Unfortunately not.

ok thank you very much

Hi Maxine

The grandparents have been deduced by working backwards through census records from Cecil b 1905 and who his parents were on the 1911 census, then finding the same parents and similar children in 1901, abd back to 1891 if the couple were then married (but you can look for a marriage of Joseph to a Martha around 1893 to confirm - and that could give you Martha's maiden name). Then it's a case of looking for a Joseph of the right birthdate and Jim has found one in 1861 that fits with parents Joseph and Harriet. And so you keep going back. Make sure you look at the actual census records as it might say a person is a nephew and you have assumed he is a son.

However the only way to be sure you have the right person is to buy certificates - you can easily go down the wrong track without them, and whilst I know it is expensive there is no point in doing this research if you are not reasonably certain.

You asked about children's birthdays - you can only get that information from certificates, or from the IGI if they happen to be there, or from death records if they died after about 1930. Nobody would be able to help you on that.

I only tell you all this so you are able to do it yourself, as that is part of the fun of this hobby and I don't want you to miss out on it!

Happy hunting

Margaret