Genealogy Chat

Dear all,
thanks so much for this info. I'm about to order her long birth certificate and hunt down some more info on the great websites you have given me.

The info you have found fits well with my mothers info and I feel certain the death of Bridget Whitty snr explains why mum was put into care (I'll follow this line up to check that they were related and have ordered her long birth certificate) she remembered this happening when she was around 4 years old. It also explains her reluctance to investigate her birth family while she was still living as she was quite old-fashioned in some ways and would have at least suspected her mother was unmarried.

Thanks again for this info it 's so much more than I hoped for when I started this search and gives me hope that mum may have some Aunties, Uncles or cousins out there that I could find.

Many thanks again

Hi Thistledown

You made me think, so I looked through all my birth certificate copies! On just one I see the Aunt registered the birth. This was in 1887 and the baby was born at home. In this case both parents were very ill and they both died a few days later. I haven't got any 'hospital births' except the modern ones (and they're all short versions so I don't know what they'd say). I registered my son in hospital myself so I would be the informant on that one. My other children, though all born in hospital, were registered later when we got home.

I think death certificates are a different kettle of fish. They tend to have a wider variety of informants. I 'm still trying to work out some of ours!

EDIT: I have also noticed on the pilot site that the mother's maiden name does not always show up on even later births. I know these parents were married so I don't know why that is.

Hi Birdinanest, on some certs Birth/Death certs if the person was born/died at home in the column for signature, qualication and residence of Informant it will tell if it was the grandmother of the baby born it will give her name and say mother.If born in Hospital it will give name of Occupier of the hospital.
If Bridget died at home it will give the name of the person present at death which is usually a reletive of the person who died.
Lily
Edit i was born in Wexford in 1949 and my grans name is on my cert as being present at birth, if Bridget was born and her mother was not married there would not be a fathers name on the cert, the only birth that i can see on the pilot site says mothers maiden name Whitty also.
If Bridget was married before babys birth i have taken up the imformation wrongly i apologize for that.
Lily

As Hawkwind says, you would be best to order a copy of your mother's birth certificate. It does sound like you only have a short version.

The 'long' Irish certificates are much the same as English ones.

In fact, I don't think you can get the 'short' ones any more.

Thistledown - I can't see a column where they would put the name of anyone 'present at the birth', there is just a column for the 'signature, qualification and resident of informant, which in our case, is the father.

Hi Margaret, was Bridget born in hospital? if not it should show who was present at birth? and an address.
There is a site on line now www.pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#p=0
There is a birth for a Bridget Whitty Enniscorthy Oct-Dec 1930 volumn 4 page 377 mnn Whitty.
There is also a Death for a Bridget Whitty New Ross April=June 1934
Volumn 4 page 374 age 30 years.
person present at death should also be on that cert provided that she died at home.
Regards,
Lily.

The fire you mention probably refers to the uprising of 1922 which destroyed many of the census records

As far as I know the birth records for 1930are intact. Why not order a full birth certificate from the Irish GRO?

http://www.groireland.ie/

You might also look at this site which has info on tracing Irish Roots

http://tiny.cc/Vz9c0

(Ive' made it tiny as it a longish url)

Bridget Whitty b 1930 October 9th is my mother. She was orphaned when she was very young and raised in convents.I have her birth certificate but it only states her name, date of birth and place (Enniscorthy, Wexford). She told me that many Irish records were lost to a fire at the records office hence her abbreviated cert. I'm trying to find her parents, she recalled a brother and that her mothers name was also Bridget. Would I need to search parish records in Enniscorthy? This may prove difficult as I live in Australia. Any help or information would be warmly welcomed.