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Can anyone tell me how I can track down records of London Police in the 1880's,I am trying to trace grt grandfather but have no info on his mother and have hit a brick wall,so need to track him through his occupation as a police constable in London.
Any advice as to where to look would be gratefully recieved
Thanks Val
Thanks Val

Metropolitan Police records appear to be at the National Archives. If you go to the National Archives site and do a search for Police the details will be amongst the results.

Valerie, you should be working backwards. Do you have your GGF's marriage certificate which would give his fathers name and occupation plus his wifes details and their place of residence?

A site you could try...Free to search but pay to get the detailed info.

http://www.policeorders.co.uk/

Chris

Thank you all for your help, I have e-mailed one source and recieved all the information that is available at that site. I am waiting for a reply from another site and am hoping to gain more information regarding my grt grandfathers parentage. Thanks everyone you've all been very helpful
Valerie

Hello again everyone I have now recieved the information regarding my grt grandfathers police service record, which confirms that the birth cert I have is the correct one. I am still missing the information I need to obtain a marriage cert for his parents. On his birth cert 1st Dec 1859 his mothers name is given as Jane Hannah Caroline Brown formely Gibson, and his fathers name as Thomas Brown his occupation was shopman I have trawled through loads of list looking for them but have come up empty handed. I've no idea what year they would have married if at all, and so once again I'm asking for any ideas where to look next. I have an 1861 census with Jane and Robert on but no Thomas. Thank you all for the help you've given me,now can I please ask you if you can help even more in my quest for the elusive marriage certificate.

Can you post the 1861 details e.g. what year Jane was born and where?

The information on the 1861 census is as follows Jane Brown born abt 1837 Westminster,Middlesex,England.
Her occupation is given as laundress,and her position as wife.
Living at 9a Spring Road.Lambeth.
The other occupants were Jane Jones- mid-wife
Mary Jones laundress,Richard Jones-Fireman on a boat.

Is this Jane in 1881.

Jane H Brown widower 1839 Westminster occ laundress
Kate dau 1866 Lanarkshire Scotland
Henry son 1870 Ireland
Edmund Hembler cousin 1844 Fulham

address 35 Dymock St Fulham

Hi Quinsgran - I'll have a look at this Jane, but the only problem is that she's given as a widow in 1881 and when Robert Brown got married in 1884 he gives his fathers name as Thomas Brown, I have been assuming that because his fathers name was on the cert' that he was still alive in 1884, am I wrong in thinking that.If so I've been on the wrong track for ages.

Who are the witnesses on Robert's marriage certificate? Could they be relatives?

It might be an idea to look into Edmund Hembler to see if he could be connected. Sometimes going sideways can help you go back.

Births Dec 1844
HEMBLEN Edmund Kensington 3 2_4

Hi Valerie

Re father being deceased on the marriage cert ...

It depends on the way the question is asked by the vicar / registrar etc.

My mother gave her father's details when she married. Her father had been dead for 20 years by then!

Jill

Brown is a very common name. I know because I have Brown in my tree.

There is another Robert Brown to consider

1881 census.
Robert Brown 1858 Fermgh Ireland occ Constable Metropolitan police

Address Gipsy Hill 1Police Station. Lambeth

Looking at the Jane H Brown I found in 1881 who has children born in Ireland and Scotland perhaps this is another possiblity

My goodness just as I thought I was on the right track you have given me lots of other lines to follow, its all a challenge though so I will follow these through, I may have the wrong Robert Brown after all. thank you all