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Sylvia, mgnv and Janet,
Thank you very much for all your help, I really do appreciate it.
Sandra
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It is also worth pointing out that as Scotland is small its far easier to find ancestors even with common names. Its also helpful that a lot of married women kept their maiden name. (Came in very handy when trying to find my James Campbell and his wife Margaret Brown)
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Sandra - phone your local library and ask them. If they don't have it, they can probably tell you which libraries in the county do have it. Also the LDS FHCs have it, but they have limited hours, and you might need to book - phone your local one, which you can find in the centre column at:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp
Depending on which Scottish county you're interested in, the early census(es) may be (partially) transcribed at:
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
You can check coverage via the details link(s) at:
http://www.freecen.org.uk/statistics.html
Here's my gg gran with her parents:
Piece: SCT1851/219 Place: Lonmay -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Lonmay Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 179 Page: 11 Schedule: 39
Address: Corsekellie Links
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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ANDERSON William Head M M 55 Farm Labourer Banffshire - St Fergus
ANDERSON Elizabeth Wife M F 55 Farm Lab's Wife Aberdeenshire - Rathen
ANDERSON Elizabeth Dau U F 22 Formerly House Servt Aberdeenshire - Lonmay
ANDERSON Jane Dau U F 11 Scholar (At Home) Aberdeenshire - Rathen
You can search for free at Ancestry and get some info (but not all you'ld get with a sub), so lets search for Elizabeth Anderson, d/o William + Elizabeth in ABD
View Record Name Parent or Spouse Names Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relation Civil parish County
View Record Elizabeth Anderson William,Elizabeth abt 1829 location relation city Aberdeenshire
[There's actually another hit in Forgue for Eliz Anderson MS Smith, w/o John, also a=22]
Now to make further progress in constructing the h/h, we need to pin down the census location more closely. Unlike England, where the census piece # changes from census to census, in Scotland the parishes were numbered from 1 in SHI thru 901 WIG. Although boundary changes and population growth did affect parishes somewhat, the numbers didn't change very much. ABD #s ran from 168(Aberdeen) thru 249(Udny) (alphabetical within county). We can systematically add the parish # to our search until we find our Eliz was in 219. These #s were also used for OPRs, and were incorporated into IGI batch #s.
http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/research/list-of-oprs.html
and for ABD, we follow the link:
http://www.scotlandspeoplehub.gov.uk/pdf/list-of-oprs-168to249.pdf
(For IGI batch #s, for 1855-abt1875, the batch # will be c11xxx1 or m11xxx1 - if they get too many, they'll continue as c11xxx3 sim m11xxx3, where xxx is the parish #. Pre-1855, the last digit will be 2,4,5,6,7,8,9 going from oldest to newest - a city like Aberdeen will run out of #s, so they'll start using unused parish #s in the 900s.
So we can search the IGI, and enter just the mother's name - Elizabeth Anderson, the batch# c112195, and the only hit is my g gran - since the record shows both birth and baptism, there really ought to be 2 hits, but only the baptism is indexed. I haven't found birth/baptism records for all of Wm + Eliz's kids, Jean is under c112355 (Rathen).
Anyway, now we know we're dealing with Lonmay, we can search for Anderson's in parish 219 - there's 38 hits (FreeCEN has 37, omitting Andarime Anderson d/o Robert + Margaret). In this case, we can easily find all the Anderson heads in Lonmay, and their wives (Ancestry lists Robt's wife as Margaret Rennie A, and FreeCEN as ANDERSON / RENNIE Margaret ). We can then list the children (all Anderson's) of any of the 6 couples. However, 2 of these h/h's have another Anderson in them (a father, and a niece); these 2 h/h's together also employ 7 servants. In addition there are 7 h/h's containing a single Anderson - 4 as servants, 1 as niece, and 2 as grandsons/grandchildren. These are hard to reconstitute without a sub, and they often are of interest (here, 2 of these servants are Elizabeth's brothers - she has another 2 brothers similarly situated in neighbouring parishes, and often they're placed with relatives of some degree). One option we have is to specify a page # on Ancestry - this doesn't deal with families split across page boundaries, nor does it deal with the fact that Lonmay has (at least) 4 enumeration districts, so the smaller page #s will be used at least 4 times. In this case we can reconstruct Eliz's h/h and that of her brother Alex, but this is largely a matter of luck. However, the two familes with extra Andersons + servants are both on page 7 of different enumeration districts, so even if I guessed they were a father and a niece, I'ld not be able to assign them to the right family, nor know their servants.
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That Scottish transcript is available with the general susbcription ot ancestry ..... has been for as long as I've had a membership.
Unfortunately Scottish People will not allow ancestry to reproduce the actual images.
sylvia
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Ask at your local library, they will help you. Most libraries have free access to Ancestry
Good lucl
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Janet,
Thank you, how do I find it ?
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On the library edition of Ancestry there is free access to the Scottish Census, if this is the sort of information you were looking for. It doesn't allow you to get a copy of the actual census but there is a printed transcribed list available. I found it helpful.......and free- JLe
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Glitterbaby,
Thank you, I just wondered if I could look anywhere else.
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Probably only have access the same as you would from your own home.
Scotlandspeople - pay to view - so certain that a library would not have that
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Is it possible to go to a library in England to try and search for information on Scottish ancestors?
Sorry, I've never been to the library to research people and wouldn't have a clue.
Sandra
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