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Cannot find John Roberts in 1861 census

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LB

LB Report 18 Nov 2009 15:20

Thank you Keith for your instructions, I have now found the right entry and learnt something new!

Thank you to everyone else to for the birth marriage and death suggestions for John, Elizabeth and Sarah - I am very grateful.


LB

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 18 Nov 2009 14:47

Hi LB,
If you go to the 1861 census and click on person search, then look at the bottom of the box and click on census reference search, if you enter the ref I put on the post (RG9; Piece: 3399; Folio: 68; Page: 1) they should come up. The Castles are transcribed as Carrel, John as Robert.

LB

LB Report 18 Nov 2009 14:42

Thank you Keith and Polly.

It sounds Keith like yours may be the right entry. However, I can’t find it on ‘Find My Past’. At the risk of sounding thick can you help me please?

Many thanks

LB

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 18 Nov 2009 14:22

How about this one?

Name: John Robert
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Son-in-law
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Batley, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Batley
Ecclesiastical parish: Batley
Town: Batley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Batley
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Cassals 44
John Robert 25, Coal Miner
Elizabeth Robert 22, daughter,
James Cassels 16
Joseph Cassels 13
Susan Cassels 10
Sarah Jane Cassels 8

RG9; Piece: 3399; Folio: 68; Page: 1
Address is Clay Fields, and image appears to show Roberts to me.

Possible death for Elizabeth if correct census?
Deaths Jun 1865
Roberts, Elizabeth, Dewsbury 9b 339

Possible marriage?
Marriages Jun 1860
CASTLE Elizabeth Dewsbury 9b 586
ROBERTS John Dewsbury 9b 586

Possible birth for Sarah?
Births Jun 1865
Roberts Sarah Dewsbury 9b 577

I wonder if Elizabeth died in childbirth or shortly after?

LB

LB Report 18 Nov 2009 14:13

I wonder if any one can help me?

I have a John Roberts born c1837 in Batley, West Yorkshire ( a coal linder labourer?) with his parents Alice (born c1804 Batley) and John Roberts (born c1804 Batley) on the 1851 census and various siblings, living in Purwell, Batley.

I have him again on 1871 census with his mother Alice (now widowed) with daughters Susan (born c1863 Batley) and Sarah (born 1865 Batley) living at Hill Top in Batley. He is working as a coal miner and described as widowed.

However, I cannot find him on the 1861 census. The only entry I can find for a John Roberts born in Batley c1837 is that of a Blacksmith Journeyman, with his wife Amelia (born c1836 Scotland) and daughter Hannah E (born c1860 Liverpool) living in Roberts Row Batley.

I’m finding it difficult to believe that this is the right John and would welcome some advice.

Many thanks

LB