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Poss death?

Deaths Sep 1926 (>99%)
Luttman Charles H 43 Manchester N. 8d 459

3 possible births:

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
Luttman Alice M McEvoy Prestwich 8d 832
Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Luttman Charles H R McEvoy Manchester 8d 320
Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Luttman Kathleen T McEvoy Manchester 8d 296

Is this her marriage?

Marriages Sep 1914

Luttman Charles H McEvoy Prestwich 8d 769
McEvoy Alice Luttman Prestwich 8d 769

I assume this is Alice and family? She was born Oldham.

1911
MCEVOY ALICE F 1890 21 Prestwich Lancashire
MCEVOY DANIEL M 1893 18 Prestwich Lancashire
MCEVOY ELLEN F 1858 53 Prestwich Lancashire
MCEVOY MARGARET F 1887 24 Prestwich Lancashire
MCEVOY MARY F 1897 14 Prestwich Lancashire

Jan

I am in the process of tracing an allusive part of my family. Alice McEvoy (born 1889 Oldham, Lancashire) is said to have had two children ‘a boy and girl’ and then to have died at a young age. The children ultimately ended up in orphanages.

I do believe that Alice and her husband/partner worked the Shambles pub in Manchester at some time after the 1911 census.

The only tangible clues are of the daughter ‘May I think’ ‘McEvoy’s I Think’ Silver Jubilee pamphlet depicting her as Sister Marie Gabriel taking orders.

Sister Marie Gabriel’s ordination was performed on the 26 April 1934 but I cannot tell from the documents in which order she served.

I am guessing that Sister Marie Gabriel and her brother were housed in Catholic orphanages in the Liverpool/Manchester area.

Could anyone possibly point me in a direction that would bring my search to a successful conclusion?

I have copied and pasted an email from a relative below and I also have a commemorative pamphlet Silver Jubilee of Sister Marie Gabriel taking orders.

Ron McEvoy



Hi Ron Thanks for the e-mail. I would love any information you have on the McEvoy's. I have talked to my mum today and she has remembered some other information regarding Alice. She thinks she may have died young or something happened to her because her two children (a girl called May and a boy) were brought to Michael (known as Matt or Matty) and Margaret's house to be looked after for a while. They couldn't stay, as the house was already crowded and she believes they ended up in an orphanage. Later May became a nun around 26th April 1934 (Sister Marie Gabriel) but we don't know where. We think she died in the 1980's but all family records have been destroyed for a number of reasons. Don't ask!! This is why it has been harder to try and track down any of this side of the family and I kept putting it off! Don't know what happened to the boy or even what his name was. My mum also recalls someone saying they owned the 'Shambles' pub in Manchester possibly Alice's husband - does this ring a bell with anyone? Margaret Lavell (nee McEvoy) died 19th November 1961 and is buried in Moston. I do have a family picture of her, Michael and the family, as well as an individual photograph. Thanks for everything