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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 31 Dec 2009 16:20

John Wilson Carmichael died AMJ quarter 1868, Scarborough, age 68. (9d 193)

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

carrieann

carrieann Report 31 Dec 2009 16:07

Hi Pauline

There's this in 1851:
St Pancras, Marylebone, 20 Howland St
Jno. Wilson Carmichael, head, 50, Landscape & Marine Artist
Mary, wife, 46,
Louisa, dau, 16, scholar
Fanny, dau, 7?, scholar
+Elizabeth [?], servant, 27, born Stansted, Essex.
Carmichaels all born Newcastle

1861
Pancras, St. Marks, Regents Park?, Marlebone [Maylebone]
120 St Marks Cres?
Appears as John M Carmichael, 61, Landscape & Marine Painter
Mary 56, wife
John W, son, 31
Benjamin C, son, 22
Fanny F, dau, 17
Susan Hutchinson?, servant, 20

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 31 Dec 2009 15:57

Siblings on BVRI:

CARMICHAEL, James Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1 Oct 1801
Christening Date: 1 Nov 1801 Recorded in: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Collection: All Saints
Father: William CARMICHAEL
Mother: Mary JOHNSON
Mother's Father: James JOHNSON
Source: FHL Film 1068963 Dates: 1791 - 1807

CARMICHAEL, William Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1 Apr 1804
Christening Date: 30 Sep 1804 Recorded in: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Collection: All Saints
Father: William CARMICHAEL
Mother: Mary JOHNSON
Mother's Father: James JOHNSON
Source: FHL Film 1068963 Dates: 1791 - 1807

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 31 Dec 2009 15:55

Here's his birth on BVRI:

CARMICHAEL, John Wilson Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 9 Jun 1799
Christening Date: 31 Jul 1799 Recorded in: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Collection: All Saints
Father: William CARMICHAEL
Mother: Mary JOHNSON
Mother's Father: James JOHNSON
Source: FHL Film 1068963 Dates: 1791 - 1807

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 31 Dec 2009 15:37

He shows in a couple of trees on Ancestry.

Parents William Carmichael and Mary - Mars or Johnson.

There are a couple of censuses the 1851 and 1861 which show a John Carmichael born in that time and place - a watchmaker. Did he earn his living from painting or was it a hobby?

Jill

Researching:
London: Faber, Haysey, Spicer ...

Pauline

Pauline Report 31 Dec 2009 15:16

thanks everyone.
He is the john wilson carmichael the newcastle painter he was born in newcastle in 1799 I cant find him on any census to trace his family.
Thanks for the advice cynthia
pauline

Netty

Netty Report 29 Dec 2009 15:27

Googling - John Wilson Carmichael+Newcastle brings up lots of info about a John Wilson Carmichael, not sure if it's the John your searching for though ?.

(b Newcastle, 1800; d Scarborough, 1868) British painter. John Wilson Carmichael was born in Newcastle-Upon-Tyne on January 8, 1800. He was the son of a ship's carpenter and was apprenticed to a ship builder.

http://www.invaluable.com/artist/carmichael-john-wilson-7kwfds3r86

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 29 Dec 2009 15:14

Do you know when he was born and where?

Kath. x

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 29 Dec 2009 15:14

Can the local library and/or museum help?

Do you know when he was around? Are we talking this century, last century, earlier?

Jill

Researching:
London: Faber, Haysey, Spicer ...

Pauline

Pauline Report 29 Dec 2009 15:10

i am trying to trace john wilson carmichael who was a local artist(newcastle area) who is related to me . I thought that it would be quite easy but I am having no luck
thanks