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Philip

Philip Report 5 Jan 2010 20:32

My GGGP John & Hannah Bate ages 37 disappeared after 1861 Census but not most of their children . Checked some immigration sites with no success.Any ideas of what to do next.
Philip

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 5 Jan 2010 20:46

Where are they in 1861, so that we can check details ?

Gwyn

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 5 Jan 2010 21:23

1851 has a John born Sittingbourne and Hannah born Ireland


1861 and 1881 has a John and Hannah in Rowley Regis, Staffs


So really need the 1861 details

Researching:
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KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 5 Jan 2010 22:12

This is the only John Bate age 37 with a wife called Hannah that I can see on the 1861 census:-

Name: John Valantine Bate
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Wellington, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Wellington
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address: Swan Inn

Occupation: Licenced Victualler

Condition as to marriage: married

View image
Registration district: Wellington
Sub-registration district: Wellington
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Valantine Bate 37
Hannah Bate 41
John Bate 15
Emma Bate 13
Edwin Bate 11
Hannah Bate 9
Ivel Bate 7
Willm Heaford Bate 4
Ann Bate 2
Mary Haden 15, servant

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1898; Folio: 4; Page: 1; GSU roll: 542884.

Kath. x

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 5 Jan 2010 23:04

I agree Kathleen.

Births Sep 1856
Bate William _eaford Madeley 6a [3_]45

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Jan 2010 15:11

Had a pm

On 1861Census they were at the Swan Inn Watling St Wellington Shrops and from there they have disappeared




So it looks like the 1861 census posted it the right family

Researching:
PLEASE DO NOT: send me information concerning your thread on the board as it should be posted on your request where all members can see it. PLEASE DO NOT: ask me for help with lookups as they should be placed on the boards to get the best possible result. PLEASE DO NOT: open your tree just because I have posted information on your thread as I will not be related. THANK YOU. Researching Carter, Cass and Walker in England. Researching Caven, McKill, Sutherland and Will in Scotland.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Jan 2010 20:00

1881 just for info

Name: Joel Bate
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Madley Nr Coalport

Civil parish: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 41 Henshaw St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Smallware & Genl Dealer

Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joel Bate 26
Mary Bate 25
John Bate 3
William Bate 1
Alfred Gartside 32



As you make no mention of which children you have on later census?



1871 ??
Name: Joel Bale
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Susannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Madeley, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Shiffnal
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: St Georges
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Shiffnal
Sub-registration district: Shiffnal
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 153
Household Members: Name Age
Susannah Bale 49
Joel Bale 16
William Bale 14
Ann Bale 12
Jane Bale 10

Researching:
PLEASE DO NOT: send me information concerning your thread on the board as it should be posted on your request where all members can see it. PLEASE DO NOT: ask me for help with lookups as they should be placed on the boards to get the best possible result. PLEASE DO NOT: open your tree just because I have posted information on your thread as I will not be related. THANK YOU. Researching Carter, Cass and Walker in England. Researching Caven, McKill, Sutherland and Will in Scotland.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 6 Jan 2010 21:40

Deleted this info as I notice you already have it.

Ozi