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Whole family missing from 1871 census?

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Sarah

Sarah Report 5 Feb 2010 04:29

Hi, i'm looking for information on my Wilkins ancestors, I cant find any of the family on the 1871 census (tried surname variants), any ideas as to how I can find them?
Its possible they could be in the Western Road Workhouse in 1871 (the father, John, is in a lunatic asylum on the 1881 census), are these records available under the normal census search?
Wilkins family in 1861 living St Martin, Birmingham - John 30, Elizabeth 29, James 8, Jane 7, Harriet 4, John 2, Ann 1.
Any help appreciated, thanks.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Feb 2010 04:52

for reference purposes ........... and to confirm this is the family in 1861

1861 Census


1861 England Census

Name: John Wilkins
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Martin

John Wilkins 30 Brewer
Elizabeth Wilkins 29 b.ca 1832, Lincolnshire
James Wilkins 8
Jane Wilkins 7
Harriet Wilkins 4
John Wilkins 2
Ann Wilkins 1


all children born Birmingham



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 Feb 2010 05:04

so somehow they got missed off


OR their surname has been badly mis-transcribed

OR they were assigned the wrong surname by either the enumerator or transcriber that they are completely hidden!



I've tried searching using the childrens' forenames, no surname, birth year +/5, Warwickshire and mother Elizabeth ......... but no go



sorry!



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Sarah

Sarah Report 5 Feb 2010 05:13

Hi, yes thanks that is the correct family, the only difference is the mother Elizabeth was born near droitwich, the original record is virtually illegible but she is listed as being born droitwich on the 1881 census and that fits with other info I have.
This is just out of curiosity, I have found most of the family on the 1881 census but would like to know what was going on in 1871 - this is the "skeleton" in my family, in 1881 the father John was in a lunatic asylum and later on in the same year his daughter Harriet gave birth to an illegitimate daughter in the workhouse (my g-grandmother).

Sarah

Sarah Report 5 Feb 2010 05:20

Hi Sylvia, thanks for having a try, I thought I just couldn't see the wood for the trees.