Genealogy Chat

Silas was a Policeman in Somerset, he was a Waiter for a short time when they came to London, he then worked at Drapers, Throgmorton St. which also wasn't too bad a company to work for (they are still in existance).

The story goes that Fred was paid off, Louisa my G Grandmother returned home with her daughter Ellen (my Grandmother) to live with her parents.
My fathers birth cert. shows Louisa was present at his birth and I believe she lived with Ellen and husband until she died .

1881 just for info as back with her parents

Name: Louisa Turner
[Louisa Gibbs]
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Silas
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Reading, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 9 Lees Blgs
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Purse Maker

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Holywell
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Silas Gibbs 60
Jane Gibbs 65
Isabella Gibbs 30
Louisa Turner 25
Ellen Turner age 8 months on image - born Lying In Hospital, Middlesex



1861 census her birth place is given as Westminster

what happens to Louisa and Ellen after 1881?


sylvia

but you actually only know that father was called George and was a Coppersmith from the marriage certificate. Correct?


Fred could have told porkies!


It seems a strange story ........... there must be a lot more behind it it.

A clerk, if that is what Fred was, was a respectable occupation, and I would have thought that a waiter would have been happy to have his daughter married to a respectable man


There is of course the age of the couple.




sylvia

Modern torpedos were only really invented about 1900 before that they were mines

Hi Glitter,
I did find the marriage cert. but that's all.

I was told he went into the Navy and his ship was torpedoed but he did survive and came home.

Just for info

Name: Frederick George Turner
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Spouse Name: Louis Gibbs
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 24 Feb 1879
Parish: St Jude, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: George Turner - coppersmith
Spouse Father Name: Silas Gibbs - waiter


Frederick occupation of clerk

Both give address as 22 Pollard Row

Does the witness names mean anything George Brett and Elizabeth Brett


Would a waiter have been able to afford to buy him off?

I'm search for Frederick George Turner c1860 (as per his marriage cert.) to Louisa Gibbs c1857.

I've found Louisa on all Census's with her family even though she must have left for a short while between 1871 & 1881 as she got married in 1879 and had a daughter Ellen in 1880.

Frederick I can't find anything apart from his marriage cert. hence I don't know where he was born etc. I do know his fathers name was George Turner and his occupation in 1879 was a Coppersmith.

Louisa was my G. Grandmother and the story is that Fred. was "paid off" any help or suggestions please!!!