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CENSUS - Deaf/Dumb/Blind/Imbicile

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miffed

miffed Report 8 Mar 2010 16:47

Can anyone tell me how I would know what affliction an ancestor had out of the above if there was a cross or a tick in this column against their name on a Census?

Or can anyone give me a few more details about how this was recorded etc.

Thankyou.

Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 8 Mar 2010 17:10

The enumerator was required to write the nature of the affliction in the final column

If there is just a tick or cross then it is more likely to be a mark made by someone collating details from the return for statisical purposes.

Usually you will see similar marks on the page and/or over a series of pages.

Mind you could also just be a lazy enumerator :-)

Chris

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 8 Mar 2010 17:35

on the 1911 it WAS recorded, but the downloaded copies of the original page have THAT column blanked out!

Bob

Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 8 Mar 2010 17:58

True Bob

I have one where in previous censuses she was recorded as deaf and dumb and GGrandad must have written somethng similar as he spread into the previous column. So the blanked out bit on this schedule is much wider just next to her entry....Bit of a give away that :-)

Chris

miffed

miffed Report 8 Mar 2010 18:03

Thankyou for your comments and info. How frustrating!

Where a X has been consistently next to a name, I suppose if I order a birth cert, I will ascertain if that affliction was from birth.

As usual, you are always left wishing for more info. Never mind. g.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 Mar 2010 18:22

Usually the cross or tick is put there to denote someone born outside of the county. Is that the case here? If there was an infirmity it was noted what it was.

mgnv

mgnv Report 8 Mar 2010 20:18

Gaynor - you suppose incorrectly. The situation is probably as MM describes - look at the X-ed individuals on that and the adjacent pages and see what they had in common.

Re 1911 blackouts - this info is subject to the 100 y rule and will be released in 2012.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Mar 2010 04:36

The tick or mark in that last column is much more likely to have been made by someone checking off the details on the original record book. The actual affliction was supposed to be written out. I've seen things like Lame from Birth as well as the ones cited above.

The enumerator filled out census sheets, and the information was then transcribed into the "book". Someone may have been checking one off against the other OR they might have been checking as information was extracted from the records (eg, as we get to know pretty quickly after a census how many immigrants there are, or religion, or French speakers, etc etc)


and the "affliction" would not be on the birth certificate anyway!


That is not one of the things that is on an English birth certificate.



sylvia

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 9 Mar 2010 09:34

On the 1901 one of my lott was stated as having one eye, and one of the sons was a "stammerer through fright"
now as the one eyed man was a horse keeper its (pure conjecture on my part) possible that a horse kicked him damaging his eye, and the son saw it happen??

Bob

Chris in Sussex

Chris in Sussex Report 9 Mar 2010 13:55

Bob

Why not??
Seems a perfectly reasonable 'assumption' to me ;-) lol

Nothing suprises me anymore in this hobby/obsession....Well, at least, not until the next time something does!

Seriously though...In my previous example I do wonder if my GGrandmother had German Measles in pregnancy hence why her daughter was born deaf and therefore by default dumb which is the most likely 'assumption' but I will never know for sure.

Questions, questions and sometimes no answers...Isn't that what makes this all so fascinating??

Chris



miffed

miffed Report 11 Mar 2010 12:56

Thankyou all for you valued comments. It is only by asking what seems a simple question that we learn so much.

Isn't it funny how it's only human nature to presume and invent so much info.......

Thanks again for your help.

Gaynor

Robert

Robert Report 11 Mar 2010 14:21

Under occupation, does it say Pinball Wizard?









Sorry, couldn't resist.

Jilliflower

Jilliflower Report 11 Mar 2010 23:10

My great aunt was deaf and dumb and was marked as such in the census. I never met her but my grandad had told me. Her name was Dessie and one enumerator put her down as Jessie and I thought that might have been her real name and she couldn't say it properly, but I have found another Dessie in the family. All her certificates are marked Dessie.
cheers
Jill