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Christine

Christine Report 30 Mar 2010 13:30

Trying to solve a family mystery back at the begining of the 1900's. My grandparents were marreid on 25th Dec 1905, Arthur James Cleary and Louisa Jones. I have their marriage certificate. AJ is down as 'of full age' so born around 1880-1884. No sign of him in the 1891 census or the 1901 census. His father is noted as Patrick deceased) - stevedore. There is a family legend (cousins only) that his mother had to get him a new birth certificate before the wedding could take place. He was also listed as a stoker, so we assume he served in the Navy (Royal or Merchant). I can trace Nan back to her Great gran, but am throughtly stuck on Grandad AJ.
Can anyone help?
Thanks in advance
Chris Skeels

Astra

Astra Report 30 Mar 2010 13:37

1911

CLEARY, Arthur James Husband Married M 29 1882 Engine Driver Stoker Stepney London VIEW
CLEARY, Louise Wife Married
5 years F 28 1883 Grenwich London VIEW
CLEARY, Louise Ellen Daughter Single F 3 1908 Poplar London VIEW
BRACKEN, Ada Visitor Single F 22 1889 Box Maker Ten Poplar London VIEW

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Registration District:
Poplar Sub District:
Bromley EnumerationDistrict:
23 Parish:
Poplar Borough

Address:
32 Morris Road Bromley E

Researching:
More in hope than expectation!

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Mar 2010 13:59

What were the names of the witnesses on the marriage certificate?

Could Arthur James have been born in Ireland as Cleary seems to me an Irish sounding name?

Kath. x

Karen in the desert

Karen in the desert Report 30 Mar 2010 17:05

Don't know about Arthur James Cleary being in the Navy as a stoker, but on the original image of the 1911 Census he is....Engine Driver, Stoker. Spratts Patent Dog Biscuit Factory.
Stepney London is given as his birthplace.

K

Researching:
Researching: MILLS & ROBERTS Cambs: TAGG Thames Ditton & East Molesey, Surrey: LEETON/LEADON Hunts & Cambs: LLOYD London/Middx: FROST London/Middx: ROSKAS, KISELIUS, BUDAS W.Lothian & Lanarks: ROSKAS, JAKAS/JAKAITE, JUSKEVICIUS, MICKEVICIUS Lithuania

Mary

Mary Report 30 Mar 2010 18:37

Ancestry tree info.
Samuel Clary 1765 married Margaret Henneberry 1777 had James Clary 1800-1851 ireland married Ellen Doylan 1818.
They had Patrick born carlow Ireland 1840-1910 he married Ellen Whaley 1842 carlow.and had several children and then Arthur James 1886 died Pitsea 1948 to unknown mum.
His last child with ellen was Ann Ellen born Carlow in 1874.

Maryb

Researching:
Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.

Mary

Mary Report 30 Mar 2010 19:57

If he died 1948 age 66 =1882.
Could this be possible
James Cleary born Poplar/Bethnal green 1882 in 1901 in Royal Navy on the ship Jupitor single Stoker 2nd Class.

Just a thought.

Maryb

Researching:
Farrar, Jessop, Ward, Booth, Wragg, Walsh.