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I can't find the marriages between:

Daniel Shay and Mary ?? around 1860, their son, Daniel, was born in 1861.

Daniel appears to have remarried a Nancy Ann (known as Ann) prior to 1866 when their first child Catherine was born.

All events will be around Deptford, London.

Can anyone spot either or both of the marriages please.

Thanks

Sue

this one sue,

Daniel Shay 1860 Greenwich to Nancy Mary Hawkes,
Greenwich Dec 1d-940.....

Ann was used for Nancy and vice -versa...

Possible?
Name: Daniel Shay
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Spouse Name: Nancy Mary Hawkes
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 Dec 1860
Parish: St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich
County: Middlesex
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: Michael Shay
Spouse Father Name: William Hawkes

Original says address for both was Montgramit? Square. Daniel was a carman, his father Michael a coal porter, her father a smith. Witnesses were George Kelly & Sarah Ann Hawkes.

Thanks Kay, that looks likely.

I have got in a pickle with this because of the wife's name on census records!


1861 England Census
about Daniel Shay
Name: Daniel Shay
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England

Civil parish: Deptford St Nicholas
Town: Deptford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 202
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Shay 23
Mary Shay 22
Daniel Shay 2 Mo


1871 England Census
about Daniel Shay
Name: Daniel Shay
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England
Civil parish: St Nicholas Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
Town: Deptford
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 127
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Shay 32
Ann Shay 31
Daniel Shay 10
Ellery Shay 3
Catherine Shay 5
Mary Shay 6 months

Where on earth does Ann come from in the 1871 census? OK just re-read and understand Nancy/Ann but Mary?

Sue

Thanks to you as well Margaret :-))

Sue

So is Mary/Nancy/Ann all one and the same?

this one also
1862
Islington--1d-1027
Daniel SHAY,
Mary Anna Mathews,,,,,

try SHEA as spelling or even SHEY.....

Well her name on the marriage registration is Nancy Mary, and as Kay explained Ann & Nancy are used interchangably.

Thanks Kay, I'll just bang my head a couple of times before I look...lol

Sue

Edit: Margaret if the other marriage Kay found doesn't fit, and it is outside their preferred area and as I couldn't find a death for his first wife, I guess as the moment I have to assume until proved otherwise that she is recorded under the three different Christian names.

Sue

This looks like her:
1851 census
St. Nicholas, Greenwich, Deptford, Kent
William Hawkes, head, 34, blacksmith
Nancy, wife, 33
***Nancy, dau, 12
Eliza, dau, 10
William, son, 7
Robert, son, 2 months
All born Deptford.

Thanks Margaret, that's a real help. I was losing the will to live last night.

Thank you too Kay :-))

I can now plod on.

Sue