Genealogy Chat

I recently applied for a copy of my parents marriage certificate and a copy of my sisters birth certificate. Interestly I discovered my parents had married 3 weeks after my sister's birth. On my sister's birth certificate, under column 8 "when registered", I found a note I have never seen on any of the other certificates I have. First was the date of registeration, 3 months after her birth, followed by "on the the authority of the registrar". Could anyone tell me if this is normal for a late registration or could it be another mystery to solve?

I am guessing that she was registered twice.
First as her mother's daughter
Reregistered with both parents.

Thank you to SomersetGirl and SatNav for your replies. I did have some problems requesting the certificate originally and it took longer than normal to receive it which was why I so interested. I had also thought it was more likely to be a late registration but as it was the first time I had seen an additional note on a certificate I wanted to be sure. Just one question for SomersetGirl, you mentioned that today births have to be registered within 6 weeks. Would you happen to know if that requirement would have applied in the early 1940's ?

I think it's been 6 weeks to register a birth since it became compulsory - 1875ish.

Jill

Thank you. Another family mystery shelved.

Gens,

Its always been a requirement when law was passed in 1875 that birth registration done in 42 days.....

a check may find it was also registered in both surnames.

I'll try that thank you.

My grandson's mum has a similar situation in her family. Her grandma married in the 1940's then separated from her husband after bearing two children.

In 1950 she then met the man who was later to become her second husband and they had a further 9 children together. All the children were registered with the surname of her first husband, even though they were not his. They eventually married when their eldest was 17 years old.....!

All the births were re-registered by order of the registrar in 1970 The index for the original registration was also amended to strike out the original entry and refer to the subsequent re-registration The page number now shows as M ' 70, to indicate that you need to refer to the later registration.

I have just been looking up my sister's birth again. Funnily enough, she is registered twice. Once in the quarter Apr Jun and again in July Sept.

The first registration had note =" refer P" followed by 4 digits, the last two digits were the same as the last 2 digits of the second registration.

However, unlike your family re-registration, the registration wasn't overwritten.

I'm beginning to think it was probably a transcription error, which might have been found when she was baptised. I am going to chase up her baptism certificate and see where that leads.

Gens

It the child was registered with one name then baptised with another.....If parents chose to change/add forenames at baptism the officiating minister was required to inform the Registrar General, so the register and index could be amended. But, of course, that didn't always happen!

Also...

Forenames could be changed within 12 months of registration, as long as the child had not been baptised with the name they had been registered under. In that case the birth will be indexed under both sets of names.

Chris

My dau in law has been trying to get her grandfathers birth cert. (This is in NZ).He was born in 1909 and lived with his mother till he was about 4-5. She then left him with a family saying he would be better off.
NZ adoption laws are not the same as England.

When she typed in his exact date of birth on the birth reg it comes up with 1950.. She rang the reg office and was told it was either a late registration or adoption.
This gave his name he was known by which was the adoptive parents surname added to his original name.
She rang the reg office again to see if she could get the original birth cert.( she knows his mothers name).
She was told because she is a third party she has to prove his parents have died as well as his adoptive parents. Seeing as her grandfather would be 101 if he was alive how stupid to suggest the parents would be still alive.It was going to cost her nearly $290 prove what she could. Bearing in mind she does not know if the birth mother married or her age .

She was then told that others in her situation have taken the matter to court and the judge has decided if they were able to get the certs.

This would cost her nothing

How ludicrous is that

Gens


those 2 registrations fit in with what you said earlier ....... she was born 3 weeks before her parents married.


The first registration will rpobably be in her mother's maiden name, while the second will be in her father's name.


They re-registered her after they married.


No matter which certificate you apply for, you will only get the later one.



It is not at all usual to re-register a child if the forename(s) is/are changed at baptism. Most peopel just do not bother.





sylvia

Thanks everybody for all your stories and help. I feel quite confident now that it was as Sylvia suggests, a re-registration after marriage. It was interesting to see that other people have had similar experiences and others with issues more difficult to resolve than my one. These boards are a great resource.

Of course the other thing was that there was the added interest in finding a little skeleton in my parents cupboard, but now I shall have to wait a little while for something else . LOL

Yes, it does make good sense Kevin, as well as being another confirmation. Thanks