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A Query on a Burial

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Ivy

Ivy Report 2 May 2010 19:35

I wonder if they had slightly different definitions at that point?

The NHS website talks about a pathologist carrying out a pm, or a post-mortem, or a post mortem examination, or an autopsy.

A coroner can order an autopsy to assist with his post mortem enquiry.

(Post mortem is just Latin for "after death", so even the burial is post mortem)

Kay????

Kay???? Report 2 May 2010 19:23



The original certificate is held back from issue till PM report is known.....but a certificate can be issued to allow buriel,this is still the procedure now.

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 19:05

Thanks Gwyn,
At least I know now that it wasnt unusual.
Anne

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 2 May 2010 19:04

I've just looked up the copy of a death certificate for my friend's family, around that time.

Death was on 17 October 1847, followed by p.m. and was registered 15 December 1847.

I don't know when he was buried.

Gwyn

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 18:57

Yes have visited the Newspaper library in Nth London and done a thorough search, to no avail. I expext it will remain a mystery. At least I found her resting place, which unfortuantely now is underneath a road.
Anne

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 18:55

Thanks Gwyn,I thought originally that it may have been more sinister, as I know the family where wealthy. Thought one of the rellies might have bumped her off!!
I have never seen the length of time being 3 months before though.
Anne

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 May 2010 18:54

SNAP, Gwyn. :-)

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 May 2010 18:53

In that case I wonder if they had the post mortem straight after the death and then had to wait until later for the inquest. Can't think of anything else really.

Have you tried the library nearest to the address on the death certificate to see if they have copies of newspapers from that long ago? If so there may have been a newspaper report of the accident.

Kath. x

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 2 May 2010 18:52

The post mortem would be soon after death, then presumably there would be an inquest and only then would the death be registered, ...when cause of death could be recorded.
Then, as now, permission may have been given for burial to take place before the inquest.

I know of someone within recent years ( 2000s) who died suddenly, but the coroner? gave permission for the funeral to take place before the inquest.

Gwyn

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 18:51

And why the 3 months ?? wait . It is very strange
I have searched through all the newspapers of the time, but could not find any report of it.

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 18:49

Says PM Coroners report

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 May 2010 18:47

Did it actually say that there was a post mortem or could it just have been an inquest? I'm not certain but I think you CAN have an inquest after a burial, but not of course a post mortem.

Kath. x

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 18:46

Buried in the churchyard 16th July 1848

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 18:45

When died:10th July 1848
Sex Female
Age 60
Widow
Cause Concussion froma an accidental fall
Registered 13th September1848
!!!!!

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 May 2010 18:43

Whereabouts on the death certificate did it mention the Post Mortem? Did it give a date for the registration of the death?

Kath. x

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 18:38

I have been a researcher for ages now, and this is the first time I have come across this scenario, can anyone tell me if they have seen this before.
From the death certificate date of death 10th July 1848, Post Mortem in SEPTEMBER 1848. So I searched for ages looking for the burial after September 48. On searching for another death I stumbled on the burial on the 16th July 1848?
How could they bury them without a death cert, or did they dig them up?
I am mystified, if anyone has a clue, please let me know
Anne